Manny Pacquiao: "Marquez was no stronger than before."

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  1. Jorrvaskr

    Jorrvaskr Active Member Full Member

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    They're both roided out of their minds, Marquez is still fresh on the juice which is why he's walking around like a ****ing battle tank. The amount of juice both of them are on makes Lance Armstrong's case look like an abuse of multivitamins.
     
  2. Manos de Hierro

    Manos de Hierro Member Full Member

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    I find it hard to believe.

    Juan was loading up on his punches (and losing rounds) from start-to-finish in ways he never previously had. That alone should've made a big difference. More, Pacquiao looked visibly hurt or at least bothered by anything that was landing clean. At first I thought the KD was something of a fluke, until Manny was getting the better of exchanges and still being knocked off his axis (sometimes ever so slightly) by single shots.
     
  3. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    after 3 fights Pac claims he lost because he wasn't cautious? BULLCHIT! You lost because JMM is better tha you.
     
  4. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    Check this punch from the 3rd fight, almost the same right hand that Pac doesn't see coming...at 26.10


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GhHnJnKQMw[/ame]

    Maybe Pacs chin has just finally cracked after too many wars but it definitely looked like JMM was hitting harder than ever
     
  5. randomwalk

    randomwalk Active Member Full Member

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    This. I think JMM came knowing he could time his right counter and planned to really lay into it. He wasn't focusing on out-boxing him, rather landing the huge counters.
     
  6. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto says he wasn't drained right after Pac fight = Cotto wasn't drained.
    Cotto says later he won't drain himself again for Pac = Cotto wasn't drained, making up excuses
    Pacquiao says JMM hit no harder = **** that **** PEDS! I don't believe the person who took the shots

    ESB
     
  7. It's not different than the claims they posed on Pacquiao.
     
  8. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    The mission continues . . . :hey
     
  9. locard

    locard Boxing Addict banned

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    Is this Pac's way of saying the brutal KO was due to his own deteriorated chin?
     
  10. juice20

    juice20 Active Member Full Member

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    ****. This is all speculation without a positive test, or an admission of use. JMM weighed the same as he did when they fought a year ago. He definitely had some body composition changes, but absolutely nothing mindblowing. A 140 lb man who is already in good condition, with low bodyfat, can look massively different if he puts on just 2-3 pounds of muscle, while loosing another 2-3 lbs of fat, which keeps him at the same weight yet looking bigger. Not difficult, even at 39. The fact he actually did strength training, with an educated and experienced coach can easily be the reason he looks different. The fact that S&C coaches are educated in physiology and sports performance can easily be a reason for the "power boost". They structure training around strengthening the major muscles used in the sport specific techniques, and also those that stabalize the main movers. It's simple logic to see that training specifically to enhance your performance can aid a little in power production when combined with already excellent technique. The eye test on JMM doesn't mean **** in this case, when you consider he actually evolved his training regimen out of the dark ages. Is JMM on PEDs? Possible for sure. Can't rule out PEDs, to do so would be ignorant, as lots of top fighters use. Manny has displayed more tell tale signs of PED use if you just go by the "eye test". It's simple to make a general argument either way, but IMO the training made the difference.
     
  11. Boxing Fanatic

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    tell that to heredia if juan is faster and stronger than before. he will tell u yes
     
  12. punchy

    punchy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac was too aggressive, he walked into a right. Not the first to do it look at Lewis McCall 1, and Wlad Sanders (Sanders left as he is a southpaw). At that level you can not throw caution to the wind.
     
  13. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    Pac got knocked out cold by a cherry picked 40 year old Marquez

    :lol::lol:
     
  14. Manos de Hierro

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    The philosophy of his entire training camp.
     
  15. JoeCamelTow

    JoeCamelTow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    48 hrs later and *******s are still :| and piling up the excuses.


    Thank you JMM!:lol: