Manny Pacquiao Opens As Slight Favorite Over Ryan García...

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  1. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you know dude,
    The closer this comes to fruition the more chance I feel you could be right.

    It will be particularly sad for manny I don’t think he will retire on his stool like Oscar.

    Too much honor for the shield.

    pac was in his prime when he fought Oscar.

    this kid is still not in his full man frame & his IQ is still developing as well.

    If I were to bet money though I’d think pac’s experience will give him the edge.

    “we shall see “ said the blind man!
     
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  2. young_wolverine

    young_wolverine Member Full Member

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    Mannys just been trying to find a big name to fight to raise money for the Phillippines covid relief that was probably supposed to be Connor but he got KOd so he's going after Ryan instead, Ryan has a shot but should be the underdog he's just gonna have to hope the time out of the ring for many and his continued aging will slow him down enough so Ryan can win. I hope we do get to see Manny vs Bud or Spence before he retires though would be some good scraps and could give him one of the best legacies in the history of the sport if he beats one of em.
     
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  3. darealperfect1

    darealperfect1 New Member Full Member

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    Manny beat Keith Thurman, AB recently and im suppose to believe that Ryan Garcia has a shot? LOL. we disregard the flaws in Ryans game especially in Luke Campbell fight.
     
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  4. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ryan Garcia has a young punchers chance, he hit harder and faster than Thurman or Broner. Thurman and Broner had better experience than Garcia, but so do most journeymen, you need an advantage in some category if you want to beat Pacman.
     
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  5. darealperfect1

    darealperfect1 New Member Full Member

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    Ryan was dropped By Luke Campbell. for whatever reason Luke didn't jump on Ryan after he knocked him down for whatever reason. Ryan has slow feet, doesn't move his head. Manny has fought harder hitters than Ryan Before. idk why all of a sudden ya act like Ryan is some elite fighter.
     
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  6. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How TF is Pac still boxing :lol: If he beats Garcia it will be epic
     
  7. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Luke Campbell was wise enough to not walk into a full-force 1000psi hook/uppercut, it was early & Ryan was fresh. As a bolted puncher, that is his best chance to end the fight with a one punch KO.

    Pacman is still the favorite, but there is a puncher chance for Ryan, he has the reach, youth & momentum on his side, if Pacman gives him the chance Ryan will take it.
     
  8. JamesLightsOutToney

    JamesLightsOutToney Respect to all boxers Full Member

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    Where do you get that 1000psi stuff from?
     
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  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I rate Pacman as the highest P4P puncher (along with Ricardo Lopez 103lbs, Naoya Inoue 108), but all those top P4P punchers can't exceed 850psi because of their height.

    Ryan Garcia has lots of footage, so you can measure his punch speed sometimes clocking over 35mph, which is very high speed for a 178cm tall man (if he is actually as tall as Alexis Arguello), this means he punches slightly harder than Alexis Arguello, but slightly less than Thomas Hearns.

    This puts Ryan Garcia at 1000psi, but because Ryan Garcia delivery system is very limited he doesn't rate as of et as a ATG-level puncher. Lots of potential, depends on Ryan Garcia keeping his speed (by not bulking up) & improving his delivery system, mainly ability to throw a maximum psi punch will moving in any direction, something Julian Jackson did best & at this point Ryan Garcia is very poor at that. This is the mean reason Pacman is the favorite
     
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  10. JamesLightsOutToney

    JamesLightsOutToney Respect to all boxers Full Member

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    Mmmh I'm highly skeptical with the process you followed but at least you put some effort in it; I wouldn't take these number for granted but thanks for the explanation
     
  11. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    RAW power is not the same (not rare) as skillful power-punching, similar to common uranium vs enriched uranium...You need the raw power, but its useless if not used. Ryan Garcia and lots of tall Lightweights punch harder than Manny Pacquiao but they will be underdogs vs Pacman because of his sophisticated deliver methods.

    A good visual of raw-power is heavy punching bags. You can see Ryan Garcia power is obviously harder, but even on the bag Pacman looks naturally much more comfortable punching & moving

     
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  12. drenlou

    drenlou The Real KING OF THE HILL! Full Member

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    Fight will never happen... At least i hope not, as Pac would most likely ruin Rye.
     
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  13. PhiloBeddo(e)

    PhiloBeddo(e) Right turn, Clyde Full Member

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    I dont want to see it either, as I dont think Ryan has earned it, but "ruin"?

    It would be the best experience he could possibly get and since he is trained by Reynoso, it would be similar to when Canelo lost to Mayweather.

    Canelo was "ruin"ed by that experience wasnt he?
     
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  14. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only slight.. Jesus...I'll put my left bollock on pacman in 3...if he can be arsed obviously lol
     
  15. Fuzzykat

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    I don't see the fight happening. If it does, I'd go with Manny. Don't think Ryan is ready.