Manny Pacquiao or Roy Jones Jr, who ranks higher all time?

Manny obviously had greater longevity and he achieved more. So most people are going to say Manny. But Roy was better prime for prime, where he didn’t need 4 attempts to try and beat someone of JMM’s calibre.

 

He achieved more, but a MW going up to HW and then back to LHW was special.

 

Who?

 

It was, but the lhw bit was a disaster. He would've been better staying at heavy and swerving the danger for a couple fights then retire

 

Jmm calibre ?? Elite mother****er calibre that boy..one of the best counterpunchers of all time. May outsized him imo

 

Without being a conspiracy theorist I don’t think you can overlook the clear affect PEDs had on Mannys career

 

And you'd need to be insanely bias to not apply that skepticism to both fighters.

 

Stop! Toney is atleast a top 65 to 70 atg MAB or Morales are no where near that. When RJJ schooled Toney it was a upset toney was p4p #1 or #2 back then.

Hopkins' longevity and ruling 160 for years makes him greater than jmm. Hopkins is a top 35 to 40 ATG.

 

Pacquiao had the better achievements as far as weight classes and beating more high profile fighters.

 

Pbf outskilled him. Jmm can't beat pbf at his own game, he's not going to outbox a superior outboxer in pbf. Pbf is a stylistic nightmare for jmm.

 

He looked a midget next to him, 2 weights bigger

 

Totally agree.... Floyd is the better version of JMM an even better boxer and counterpuncher...even his trainer Nacho said he wanted no more of Floyd for his guy.

 

Agree mate. Don’t think the peds had as bigger affect on Roy. Manny tuned up Thurman at 41 with no vada testing just last year. Jones was the bigger talent to answer the question ass about face

 

No he didn't. Pbf outboxed jmm he didn't beat him up.

 

Maybe 3..he looked massive...