Manny Pacquiao: Texas Post-Fight Drug Test Result Finds Champ Clean

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by brando, Dec 12, 2010.


  1. knockout24

    knockout24 New Member Full Member

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    Look stop talking sh*t about the PACMAN he is def not on the juice, pretty boy just cant take the risk of losing his unbeaten record. Floyd ducked fighters all his career (MARGARITO) (WILLIAMS) and he waited while Mosley was a shot fighter.Pacman is the real p4p best he will fight anyone, its bob arum that keeps him in with names like Mosley for the money. for Floyd to be recognised as NO1 he must beat PAC not a chance.
     
  2. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wasn't he supposed to get caught taking some illegal substance?
     
  3. jharax

    jharax Active Member Full Member

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    or at least *****s are hoping he'd get caught :D
     
  4. Cravan

    Cravan New Member Full Member

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    He would not have fought him at all if mosely had not challenged him right to his face. :deal
     
  5. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't see how this is news? Everybody knows the testing methods for boxing are out-dated and can be beat by anybody with a pulse.

    Scheduled urine test.... Easiest to beat. Not saying Pacman is on PEDs, just saying the test doesn't prove anything. It's practically worthless in the modern age of designer drugs. Remember, this is the same style of test that allowed Mosley to use EPO for his fights. Mosley never tested positive.
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    yeah it's now worthless but just a few days ago, your fellow joyboys are accusing pac's team of holding out the results and hoping that pac tested positive. :deal
     
  7. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What other people say, has no bearing on what I say and believe. One, has nothing to do with the other.

    The problem with Pacquiao bandwagon fans is that they group everybody up in the Mayweather camp if you don't cheerlead for Pacquiao at every opportunity. Fact is: I've probably been a fan of Pacquiao longer than you have.

    Fact #2: The urine tests in boxing are antiquated and ineffective against modern doping techniques. That is not in dispute and is a scientific fact.

    Fact #3: Fact #2 has nothing to do with Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather Jr.
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    pacquiao bandwagon fans? you don't know what you are talking about, may i ask you which first live fight of pac you have seen? and don't act like you are not hoping for pac to test postive just like the other joyboys.
     
  9. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really don't care. I just want a clean fight between clean fighters, period. Like I said, you have a problem of projecting what other people think and feel onto different people... Not a good habit. What other people say, has no bearing on what I say or think.

    The testing techniques are out-dated and ineffective against modern doping techniques. Like I said, this is not in dispute and is a scientific fact.

    People claiming this test is some kind of "vindication for Pacquiao" are blowing nothing but hot air. If the test wasn't hugely flawed, maybe we could make that claim that "Manny is for sure clean." However, with the current level of testing he has done, you can't really say for certain either way, clean or not.

    The tests he has taken, can be beat, and have been beat in the past by other fighters. What does passing a test prove if it has already been proven the test can be cheated? Not a whole lot to be honest.

    Watching a "live" fight makes you a fan? I've been watching Pacquiao since the late 90s when he was a flyweight. I've got Filipino relatives and friends and have known about him for quite some time. I was in Vegas during his fight with David Diaz however and was able to talk with Mr. Roach for a bit. Nice guy, and I got a great picture with him.

    Sorry I don't sit here and praise Pacquiao at every turn. That doesn't make me less of a fan. I'm just keeping it real, and in reality, Pacquiao has yet to take a test that can't be cheated easily. That does not mean he is dirty either, but it sure as heck doesn't prove he is clean.
     
  10. snakeface

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    worst trainer camp he ever had = pac is clean

    margarito caught on camera taking a substance = margarito is clean???

    arum and his love for texas and his pull there now.
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

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    you don't understand why people on this thread are vindicated. a few days ago, several thread started by the floyd fan boys have been accusing pac's team of holding the information hoping against hope that someone tested postive and hoping that it is pac. now which boxing fan in their right mind would like somebody who is now the face of boxing to test positive and give boxing a black eye unless you are a floyd fan boy or a hater?

    now, pac passing the test that the commission approves and which is the current standard for all boxing fights will not surely make him clean but it will remove some doubt which was started by floyd's camp and his legion of fans. it is much better than withholding the information as some of floyd fan boys say.

    it's good that you've been watching pac since his flyweight days because i do too. i even catched him fight in his blow by blow days.
     
  12. Brownies

    Brownies Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What are you trying to say ?
     
  13. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Giving the Floyd Joyboys too much attention. They talk a lot of hot air as well and are just looking for attention.

    I was just making the point and keeping it simple: The test doesn't prove somebody is clean. It just proves they and their team weren't stupid enough to get caught by a flawed test.

    That doesn't mean Manny is guilty either, but I can't say for certain he is clean until he takes a test that is worth a damn. I'm in the "I don't know and can't say for sure" camp.
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

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    well, that goes out to every boxer i guess if they would not take a more stringent test. and even with these OSDT test, we are not sure that a boxer is totally clean since in your argument, mosley never tested for the designer drugs he is taking because at that time, there was no test to detect it.

    floyd-mosley OSDT is not even a full-proof method since they only started testing some days after they started training. from what i understood regarding OSDT, they need an all year round to monitor each athlete.
     
  15. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The best opportunity to catch an athlete is when he is in training. That is when you can use PEDs and get their benefit later on even after you have stopped using it. Your increased training regime from the PEDs will carry over into your performance if you cycle them correctly. The PEDs will be out of your system, allowing you to pass a test, but the benefits of your PED use will still be there. That's why the "random" aspect of testing is so important.

    No testing method is "completely full-proof;" However, that doesn't mean they should continue to use one of the most flawed drug tests available. And that is EXACTLY what boxing commissions are doing. They are brushing the problem under the rug essentially and denying there is even any problem at all.

    I understand the logistics of more stringent testing isn't exactly feasible for every fight and every fighter. However, at the top championship level I believe these kinds of stricter testing guidelines should be implemented across the board.