Manny Pacquiao: The most overated fighter in the history of boxing??

I don't understand your comment. Are you a moron?

 

this thread is so played, we can do this with ali's resume too. bottomline, they fought who was put infront of them and they won.

 

Humberto Soto moved up from 126lbs to 130lbs to fight for Pac's WBC 130lbs Title, but Pac was to scared to fight Soto, so Pac abandoned that belt, to avoid defending it against Soto.

JMM moved up to lighweight to challenge Pac, but Pac, as always, chickened-out and jumped again.

Julio Cesar Chavez wiped out the 130lbs division, moved up to 135lbs and wiped out that division, then moved up to 140lbs and wiped out that division.

Erik Morales moved up from 122lbs and wiped out that division, then moved up to 126lbs and 130lbs and wiped out those divisions.

The same can be said for MAB.

Pac, on the other hand, has never wiped out a division, cause Pac is a scared chicked that handpicks easy fighst, uses EPO Steroids and other PED.s, and has had a few FIXED FIGHTS.

 

Barrera was prime and got whopped. You're just a hater that's trying to discredit Pac but you're failing miserably. Cotto was weight drained?lol He, himself admitted he wasn't. I only criticize Pacquiao for fighting Clottey & Marg and getting what I thought was a "gift" in the second Marquez fight. I actually scored the first fight for Pacquiao.

 

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Barrera was not prime. MAB was sliiping into a past prime.

Barrera's prime was 1998-2001.

Besides, Barrera had pre-fight problems before the 2003 Pac fight.

1.) his wife divorce
2.) manager/promoter problmes, cause he left Forum Boxing for GBP
3.) his forme manager-Ricardo Maldonado retalitaed and disclosed a metal plate health issue a few weeks before the fight, so that it would interfere with MAB high altitude training in Big Bear.

anyone that knows boxing high-altitude training, knows that a fighter that trains in high altitude is supposed to come down ONCE, to lower level.

MAB had to come back down and up, back and forth, so that he can get medical clearance. and that ruined his high altitude built stamina.

Then, to add insult to injury, there were massive wildfires in Southern California, and MAB had to relocate training camps from Big Bear, to San Diego.

by the time MAB went to Texas to fight, he was fatiuged and his stamina depleted.
Thats why Freddie Roach made a $10,000 bet, that Pac would win in the casinos, causehe knew for sure that MAB was not gonna be 100% at fighting, and MAB stamina would deplete much sooner, than he was supposed to, due to having come down from high altitude training at the wrong time, and worst of all, many times.

 

Couple of pounds whoopty doo :dead Were they ever outweighed except Marquez he was absouletly destroyed by May. I'd to see your god soto move to 140-147 everyone knows he is a big lightweight. Same with rito the cat is bricking his gloves, he's already bigger than everyone he fights- why? Why not move up to middle weight.Soto reminds me of Rito TBH.

 

Cry baby cry. Sounds like excuses to me. Barrera was prime or close to it, that's it. No inbetweens. Yes he was going through problems mentally before the fight but Pacquiao beat him, no excuses. Pacquiao was also the underdog or do you not want to even acknowledge that? Barrera at that time was still one of boxing's best and he lost, clearly.

 

Im not a MAB fan, and have hated him for ducking Humberto Soto since 2007.

MAB had wars against Morales, hamed, Johhny Tapia, and so many others in his 50+ fights, before he fought Pac.

and you do acknowldge that MAB had problems before the fight, and that was his downfall.

The High-ALtitude training interferences, of coming down from high altitude training prematurely and many times, is what really screwed-up his stamina before the fight.

Bottom line, Pac had a lucky night, againts a past-his-prime, and distracted, out-of-shape barrera that night.

 

He did have problems but you're using them as an excuse just to discredit Pacquiao. I like MAB don't get me wrong but he was prime and got whopped, stop crying. You don't have a "lucky night" if you give someone a beatdown like Pacquiao gave Barrera. Pacquiao was brilliant that night and Barrera was a top name when he lost to Pacquiao in '03.

 

MAB was already whooped before he stepped in the ring with Pac, cause he didnt train well, cause of many distractions.

Like I said, Im not a MAB fan, Im just telling what really happened, not to discredit Pac, but to point out that Pac got a "lucky" win.

You just dont like it when I expose the truth, that Pac has been lucky in his career, with steroids, Fixed Fights, etc.

Pac is a fraud, and neither you or anyone else can prove me wrong, which is why many of you clowns just go around in circles, with nothing new to counter.

 

While I do think some of his accomplishments are somewhat overrated, I think people are taking the asterisks that are attached to some of his wins and eliminated the accomplishment all together.

Even with the asterisks there is no guarantee that Pac would have lost any of those fights regardless. He still deserves a lot of credit for what he has accomplished since not everyone can do it even with the asterisks.

 

by asteriks you mean peds?

 

No, I don't like it when people like you make up random bs just to make yourselves feel better. Steroids? Fixed Fights? Prove that and maybe I'll listen but in the meantime I'll just let you babble on about nonsense. How do you say you don't mean to discredit Pacquiao yet you say that MAB's distractions are the reason he got whooped? THAT is discrediting Pacquiao whether you agree with that or not. You sound confused and come off as a hater with a lack of logic. Learn boxing son.