~ Manny PACQUIAO v. Juan Manuel MARQUEZ ~ ANALYSIS and PREDICTION Thread ~

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  1. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you are saying that Pac is going to be undertrained on March 15...right?

    Do you have any info that we don't know about it? Please post it.
     
  2. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HEY DIVAC! YOU KNOW SOUND MORE CONFIDENT.
    You keep on insunuating, directly or indirectly saying that JMM will
    do this and do that to PAC. He did not take a day off even chirstmas.
    Good for JMM!

    NOW!
    Lets put you CONFIDENCE into ACTION!

    Lets HAVE A BET. (what I discussed previously)

    Now that you hear that pac has not trained as seriously as JMM (Music to your ears!) Might want to consider my EARLIER PROPOSAL? After all the lesser training days for PAC the better for JMM right?!

    I have not changed my STAND that PAC will WIN and the bet is ON if you like. PLS advise!
     
  3. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    pac just started jogging and light gym work last week. if he makes it to the US by jan. 15, he will only have at most 7 weeks of hard training for this fight which is very marginal given that this is a big fight w/ a very dangerous opponent. the ideal should have been at least 8 weeks. if this new scandal further delays pac's departure from the phil., that will mean even less time for him to train properly. as of now, pac is already a little bit under-trained for this fight. he has no one to blame for this but himself with the lifestyle he lives.

    afaik, pac had only about 5-6 weeks of hard training for the 2nd barrera fight.
     
  4. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cert,

    THANKS! but mentioning that pac had only 5-6 weeks training for the 2nd mab fight will surely scare divac in my bet.

    yes, i agree with you if he (pac) loses due to under trained he has nothing to blame but himself.
     
  5. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Properly trained or not, JMM wins this fight. I would say if pac is under trained then JMM has a good chance of stopping pac late in the fight if pac starts to trie out due to lack of stamina and JMM hard and well placed body shots. I cant wait for this fight, I just need to find a good betting site so I can put a bill on JMM, easy money!
     
  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Theres a world difference between outboxing a 5"9 past prime out of shape undersized James Toney to outboxing a 6"7 prime top outboxer with concussive power. That is not the case with JMM & MAB.

    I didnt say try outbox JMM, I said box aggresively. Smart aggression may win him the fight. Yes I felt that if Hatton used a bit more brains and mixed it up with his brawling he may have had a better chance instead of just leaping in like that without regards to defense. Thats not to say he should have stood there and boxed like Gatti either.

    Put it this way, JMM scored 1 or 2 more punches on average per round when Pac was simply throwing 1-2 all the way through. Watching him in the fight, he couldnt look more predictable yet it wasnt like JMM toyed with him, some of those rounds Pac actually won simply using that strategy. If Pac uses the same aggresion with better head movement, more bodywork, better use of right hand and different combinations, we could easily see the majority of the rounds sway in his favour. This fight will be simmilar to Pac-Morales 3. JMM wont get as often but he wont need to get hit as often to get that worn down, he doesnt have Morales chin and height.
     
  7. kartog

    kartog Agent Smith Full Member

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    That's the whole argument right there.

    I'm actually picking an early to mid-rounds knockout victory for Pacman. I can envision Pacquiao jumping Marquez right in the first seconds and initiating an early brawl. Pac will still lead mainly with his jab-straight left, but unlike in the first fight won't simply cover up while stepping back to reload. This time he'll utilize his right hook to exchange on a somewhat equal footing with Marquez and his 3- and 4-punch combos. And it's not only the straight left he'll be watching out for, as those right hooks pack the kind of power that staggered Morales as early as the first round in the third fight.

    I can't imagine Marquez fending off a two-fisted marauding Pacman when he had all he could handle and then some just dealing with the straight left. Marquez can't help it but execute his counterpunching combinations, that's his bread and butter. The twist that Pac is looking to make here is to get off one or two hooks after JMM gets by the straight left, engaging in a short brawl after every lunge. As surely as Barrera and Morales landed some heavy leather on Pac, Marquez will also. But Pac is willing to absorb them to land his own, and the bigger power will prevail. I was totally surprised when Pac exchanged with Morales and Barrera in their last fights. It seemed to me that both opponents landed big shots of their own but Pacman seemed to walk through them to deliver his own.

    Pacquiao didn't really have anything to make his blood boil in the Barrera rematch. Against Marquez, there's the draw and The Ring's prediction of a Marquez victory that will surely get him pumped to deal some serious punishment.

    It's going to be a memorable war.
     
  8. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You seem to be interesting fan of JMM :good

    Since Divac can't put action on his faith that JMM can win PROBABLY YOU CAN take his shoes?

    Who ever loses by KO is BANISHED in this WEBSITE FOREVER!
    Now if our favorite boxer loses by UD or SD then 3 to 6 months
    ban (which ever you want) will be banned?

    Are you just :blabla :blabla :blabla or the BET is ON? Simple questions deseverse simple answers:
    a) yes, the bet is on
    b) no, I'm just like Divac

    The way you talk ... you sound more confident than DIVAC. Properly trained or not... that's what I like CONFIDENCE!!!!

    Lets put your CONFIDENCE INTO ACTION OK?!

    The BET IS ON OR NOT?!
     
  9. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whats the point? If pac loses you probably wont watch boxing again considering you are a fan of only pac and therefore wont want to be here anymore. Its a win win situation for you is the way I look at it. Dont worry about the confidence I have in JMM, I am not the one fighting.

    You know what, **** it I'll take your bet. Only if you agree to log on for an entire week after pac gets KO'd to explain why JMM was the superior boxer. I want you here posting after pac kisses the canvass.:yep

    Of course I will do the same if JMM loses, Deal?:deal
     
  10. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    red manure.. finally your chicken balls became manly :lol: :lol:
    i commend you for your bravery :good

    finally, youll disappear in this forum. :hi: :hi: :hi:

    please tell chicken divac do the same. ive been doing this to him and hes just ****ing scared his balls always shrink evrytime i mention the lifetime ban .. :good
     
  11. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My homie johnny. how ya been little one? You so confident in pacman, why dont you take a lifetime ban if he loses? Show everyone you really have a pair instead of talkin that ******ed **** you usually bring. :hey

    I dont want anyone of you guys to go. After JMM beats up on pacman, I dont think you guys will ever be the same. I must admit, your posts always crack me up especially when you post pics and all those smilies. So chicken johnco, care to participate?:bbb
     
  12. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes, ive been more than willing to take the bet :yep :yep

    as what you said, loser stay for 1 week. and the bet will take into account that the loser will log in for 1 week for reading the degrading and humiliating posts. :good :good remember, once pacman put jmm into the grave, the same thing he did to em and mab, it will be an honor to see that flag again to be used by you to wipe your tears and put it into jmms :deal :deal

    and please, put divac into the bet. even though you are getting the best deal of the bet ( you and silvermags and I), I want your bf chicken divac to firm up his balls and not do the quacking :hey :hey

    red manure. i guarantee you. pac will bury your boy alive. we are talking about pac with no more injuries here. :deal :deal

    so in advance, enjoy your stay here for a while. and after the fight, i will be owning you again the same thing we did to you when pac made em and mab begged for their lives :yep :yep

    advance sayonara baby :hi: :hi:
     
  13. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Shouldn't that be "ADIOS"?
     
  14. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sayonara, adios ... whatever . he'll be forever gone :good
     
  15. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    DEAL! :good

    Wether I watch boxing again or not is none of your business.
    My only point is LIFETIME BAN IF ONE LOSES BY KO. and 3 or 6 months if our boxer loses by UD or SD. You choose how many months.

    Since you want to log on for an entire week just to explain so be it. No problem. It's simple. Who ever wins ESPECIALLY on a KO manner is the better boxer.

    I hope it's UD instead of SD. Lets get REAL. Sore losers will not accept SD wether you like it or not. So i hope somebody wins by a DEVASTATING KO WIN to ERASE ALL DOUBTS correct?!

    Last question, when was the LAST DEVASTATING KO win of JMM?! and to WHOM?!

    IF you ask about PAC, I don't have to answer correct? EVERYBODY KNOWS! How about JMM? to whom and when?

    I hope that whom? from JMM is known enough so I DON'T have to use GOOGLE?! I know he won over a filipino boxer but forgot his name.

    Good Night!