Manny Pacquiao vs.Erik Morales I

Why don't they do they research into the way the boxers spend their money, or if they have criminal connections?
You have to have evidence something is wrong to accuse someone of it, or try to alter the rules.
What are you trying to catch?
Certainly no one in here is saying this test is good because it will catch Mayweather. That's why this whole thing ended up being a smear campaign against Manny.
You all think he is on something because floyd says he was.
If floyd was being accused of being on roids, all the same guys would be in here making a big fit over "floyd has never tested positive, wtf"

 

****in hook, line and sinker

 

:good

 

It would have been a minor concession if Pacquaio has no issue in having a blood test conducted days before his fight, but apparently, he has, and which has been well documented even before this unprecedented request from Mayweather comes out. And since this would be his biggest fight, he would not want to give Mayweather an advantage by having this kind of hassle.

And is it not crazy on the part of Mayweather to ask the fight at 154 knowing fully that Pacquaio only fought at 147 twice, while he has fought there in the past several years? Is it not a ***** move in the first place? Was it reasonable on the part of Mayweather to ask for 154?

What was he thinking? Pacquaio would just follow his ass like JMM did?

As for the $10 million per pound penalty, it is reasonable given the proven record of Mayweather of coming overweight in a given contracted weight. So if ever Mayweather shows up over 147, the fight would still push through, only Pacquaio would be richer by $10 million.

 

This is the best part about *******s. They laugh at people for suggesting Morales was past prime, Barrera's training was hindered by a forrest fire, but then come out with Blisters, wrong socks, taking blood, wrong gloves". Anything you could ever think of.

...Morales won because he was better that night. End...of...story.

 

History books willl say yes, Morales won their 1st fight and he was/maybe better that night.

However, rightly or wrongly, Pacquiao felt that losing that very small amount of blood so close to the fight and not using the gloves he wanted affected his performance.

 

Morales was shot for the second fight too.

Barrera was affected by the forrrest fire leading up to their first fight. He didn't get half the amount of sparring he usually gets leading up to a fight.

Oscar De La Hoya was weight drained, by Pacquiao's trainer's OWN admission.

Hatton had well-documented issues leading up to the fight with Mayweather Sr. It hindered his performance.

Cotto had one of the worst corners in history. They offered little to no advice, hindering Cotto's performance.

Like I said, stop this nonsense, Morales beat Pacquiao because he was better on the night.

 

... and I'm telling you that Manny seem to strongly feel that losing that very, very small amount of blood affected his performance. Rightly or wrongly, it's his belief.

 

It was very hard for him to accept he got beat by a better man. It's very common among prize fighters, irrespective of how humble they are. Barrera claims he didn't train hard for Marquez because it just another fight. Rubbish. Two great Mexican fighters from Mexico City? ...It was huge, and Marco did his best but just didn't have his youth to pull out the fight. Fighters are proud, they go through their entire life being winners. That's why they are on the big stage. When they lose, there's always some little detail.

Roberto Duran's entire career is a picture book for this.

 

You obviously do have not been to a laboratory. Many people pass out not because of the volume of blood but rather because of pychological effect.

A regular 50 kilogram person has 10-12 liters of blood and you could lose blood less tha 20 per cent of it without feeling anything. meaning as much as 2 liters, or 4 blood bank bags.

I ahve been collecting blood and I have seen people pass out, so do not pretend to be knowledgable on matters that you do not know. And the most common pattern is actually males who are bigger bodied and muscular have higher tendency to pass out.Studies might not prove that these population indeed pass out more frequently, but this is from personal observation, and there is a physiologic explanation for it.

Basically athletes have very sensitive autonomic nervous system, the ones involve in the "fight or flight" phenomenon that they react to something stressful by having bradycardia and passing out.

Once again, it has nothing to do with the volume of blood, because some even pass out with a simple finger *****, meaning taking not even one milliliters, practically less than 20 drops of blood.

 

I agree, there are reasons for Manny's defeat, maybe the blood test played only a very, very smal part as far as maybe affecting Manny psychologically. There's other videos of Manny speaking after the first Morales fight saying he and Roach underestimated Erik Morales, that he was 100% physically ready for the fight, but was not mentally ready. Gloves were an issue as his promoter sold him out where he couldn't use his normal Cleto Reyes.

But going by your reasons, about Erik's talent and solid chin, what then is the major difference as to where Manny was able to KO Morales 10 months later in the rematch if it wasn't the blood being drawn in the first fight?

 

...You are aware that a nobody beat Erik Morales before Pacquiao got his rematch? He was finished. Painfully obvious to anyone who doesn't have an obligation to talk up Manny Pacquiao. He would have probably beaten a prime Erik Morales at 130lbs, but he never did.

 

:-( All this talk about Manny's excuse because of the bloodtest affecting his performance vs. Erik is not helping his cause.

IF THIS WAS TRUE, THEN WHY DID HE TAKE THE FIGHT IF HE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HINDER HIS PERFORMANCE? Come on now, I want him to beat Floyd, but he needs to take his loss to Morales as a man. Manny lost to a past his prime Erik and it is clearly evident Morales losing to a 2nd rate fighter like Raheem is proof Erik was on the downslide. TRUTH