Manny Pacquiao vs Hector Camacho @ 130lbs

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by acb, Jun 12, 2008.


  1. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    He just doesn't want to be honest. Its funny when something is so clear on tape but people act as if they can't see it. Weird.
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    The thing about the group of Morales, MAB, JMM, and Pac, is that none of them really met great legit 130 lbs competition.

    All of them made climbs to 130 lbs, but each of their best competition at 130 lbs came from fighters that followed them from the lower weights.

    P4P I think each competes with Camacho, but at 130 lbs, Camacho was great, and there is no if's and's or but's about it.

    I dont believe none of the mini-fab four has established greatness at 130 lbs, how could they really, they were really featherweights who moved up in weight from 126 lbs and fought eachother.

    None between them has come even close to fighting a natural great 130 pounder.

    Camacho imo beats all of the mini-fab four at 130 lbs, and Pac due to having less boxing skill, imo gets embarassed by Camacho.

    Camacho had to much speed, to much quickness, and too much skill for Pac to even have competed with him.

    12-0 UD for Hector Camacho, a complete stylistic mismatch imo!
     
  3. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Some valid points here Divac.
     
  4. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some people don't get it.....they think we are bias....

    Let me put it this way....none of the present boxers at 130 would beat PBF, Arguello, Camacho.....etc.
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed, I dont see anybody at 135 lbs and below that I'd favor over any of the fighters you just listed.
    The three you mentioned were ATG lightweights that compete and are World Champions in any era in history!
     
  6. akoaypogi

    akoaypogi New Member Full Member

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    I asked you a question, and you answered me with another question. Give and take acb.
     
  7. akoaypogi

    akoaypogi New Member Full Member

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    Limon was a cross between Richard Hall and Carlos Maussa, the way he fought. To simply things, Limon wasn't good. Limon was like Ricardo Mayorga and Edwin valero of today in terms of level of fighting.
     
  8. akoaypogi

    akoaypogi New Member Full Member

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    No I was being honest. You're the one who's overrating the guys speed too much as if he was flash. Camacho's fast punches were limited and in spurts. Guzman has faster hands and has more sustained speed than this guy had.
     
  9. akoaypogi

    akoaypogi New Member Full Member

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    The thing is with these "What if" threads, they are based on opinions. They don't mean much. I can say Pac would destroy Camacho and all those guys you mentioned. At the end of the day they never fought. They are just opinions.

    The good thing about Mythical matchups you can never go wrong picking anyone. Anything in boxing is possible. If Douglas and Tyson did not fight, who'd say Douglas would beat Tyson? If Chiquita Gonzalez and Rolando Pascua did not fight, who'd say Pascua would beat Gonzalez? If Ali and Foreman did not fight, who'd think Ali would win against that Foreman? Nothing is sure in boxing, until proven in the ring.

    Pacman KO PBF
    Pacman KO Arguello
    Pacman KO camacho
     
  10. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    good point...:good
     
  11. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    you have a point though
    post of the year:happy :happy :happy

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    :dance
     
  12. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Being that Paq has never fought that high I think Camacho with eek out a decision.
     
  13. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    Opinions are nothing but soulless corpses, they are yet to prove themselves worth living: especially things like you said about camacho outclassing pac in speed and quickness. Might be true, might not be true. You're just too damn lucky this fight would never happen coz in boxing: anything can happen. Have you heard of the word upsets? Coz i for one saw hector in yputube: no way is he faster than pac! Just an opinion like you have divac...
     
  14. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    Anyways casa vs jmm is now official. Goodluck to your boy, jmm divac! Anychaance of an avatar bet? My pick is casa. Anyways if jmm lose do you thnk a 3rd fight with pac can happen?
     
  15. PH|LLA

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    I've not seen enough of Camacho to judge but from looking at his record it seems Camacho started his career at 130 and only fought about 20 fights at 130 before moving up to 135. Judging on that, he was very unproven when he was at 130, and taking on Pac would probably have been a too soon to take such a big step up in class of opposition.

    Who was Camacho's best opponent at 130?