Manny Pacquiao vs Paul Williams

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Godfather, Jul 13, 2010.


  1. Interceptor

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    Floyd agreed to 10 million for every POUND over 147 and a 50-50 split.

    The Filipino Fraud bailed like a scalded dog(ironically his favorit meal):lol: from the negotiating table over RANDOM testing.
     
  2. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Mexican? Haha ... What makes you think I am Mexican ? **** off 12 year old , go back to playing with your video games
     
  3. Interceptor

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    That's what you are.:yep
     
  4. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Floyd hasn't spoken yet. We don't even know what was in the proposed contract.

    If emmanuel thought it's a good idea to put in 50/50 then I agree with Floyd on not signing it off. emmanuel is worth 45% straight up as the numbers show. Unlike fans of the filipino guy, I don't argue with cold, hard facts.

    If I was in Floyd's shoes I would be willing to be patient for that extra 5-10% or a couple of millions, **** it if most of the world hates me in the meantime. Don't act like you wouldn't wait for a few months if it meant making a couple extra mil. You would probably take it up the AZZ for a mil.

    The blood testing is up for them to sort out. That **** is too theoretical and abstract to argue. There's no solid numbers that can be used as facts.

    You talk to me as if you wish I was Floyd just because his face is to the left of all my posts. I guess he can't help it if he's P4P King and on your mind all the time.
     
  5. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Of course he agreed to the fine , he knew he Wouldnt fight PAC anyways. He saw the 2005 interview with PAC where PAC says he had blood taken the day before the morales fight and that's why he believed he lost. The blood demand on top of defaming pacquiao would easily be enough to prevent PAC from wanting to give into any of Floyds extra demands.
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    it is clear now who wants this fight and who is taking us for a ride. floyd wants to kick punk's ass but when negotiations are settled, he was nowhere to be found. where is floyd hanging now, in ducksville? :lol:
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

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    so split is the problem now? you joyboys are looking for every minute detail on how floyd can escape scrutiny on his non-acceptance of pac's challenge? 50-50 is fair for a fight of this magnitude. 14 days cut-off is also fair.
     
  8. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    you do realize that the Ring official P4p rankings still has Floyd at #2?
     
  9. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not many people analyzed Williams vs. Quintana but those who did said the same thing. How could Quitana get inside on Williams despite a 10" reach disadvantage and 5" in height? Yet he did. I know you can say that Williams destoryed Quintana in the rematch but that is besides the point.

    Quintana could get inside, why? Because Williams does not know how to stop people from getting on the inside. He just doesn't. I spent a lot of time debating Pavlik vs. Mayweather and I maintain the same stance here: Height and reach is only an advantage if you can use it. Williams is not accurate enough and doesn't have the long range punches or the foot movement to keep Pacquiao at range. Pavlik is not accurate enough or fast enough to stop Mayweather from getting on the inside.

    Different fights but the same principle. Saying a fighter has height and reach is not all that matters because there are literally hundreds of examples you could cite, which disprove that physical advantages alone are enough. The boxers needs skills to use those physical advantages and does Williams? I don't think he does.

    The key with Pacquiao here is footwork. Williams throws very lazy lonjg range punches and, even though he isn't a slow puncher, they are very easy to track and Pacquiao's foot speed would allow him to make Williams miss and then jump on the inside, before firing off his rapid punches. Williams would be puzzled by this fast, in-and-out style, just like he was when Sergio Martinez employed the same tactics. Luckily for Williams in that fight, Martinez was not able to fight at that pace for 12 rounds but Pacquiao could for 15 rounds, if nessecary.

    Pacquiao's speed negates Williams' size.

    Pacquiao UD.
     
  10. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Not that I have anything against Mexicans , but not a single part of me is Latino
     
  11. USboxer1981

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    Leon , you don't have Anything to say about your ******ed YouTube comment?
     
  12. Interceptor

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    But you're forgetting than Manny cant fight on the inside.:hey and he's WIDE OPEN down the middle:yep

    William's uppercuts would pic him up off the canvas.

    If you think Clottey had his head flying back..Paul would have him looking like a Pez dispenser.

    Manny looks fast against the SLOW guys he's been fighting.Believe me..He's not as fast as ya'll been led to think:deal
     
  13. Leon

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    50/50 wasn't never fair. In the total sum in revenue of their Marquez, Cotto, Clottey, and Mosley fights emmanuel generated nearly 45% of it.

    You mention that they're both getting a lot of money, but since when did successful business people intentionally go make bad deals for themselves?
     
  14. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Too big to read, but I disagree with your final assessment.
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

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    if you thnik floyd is making this fight better by avoiding for almost 7 months now, you are mistaken. 50-50 for this fight is just fair. both parties have agreed to it before. if floyd wants his bigger share get it from his promoter and not from pacquiao's cut. besides pac can accept 40% and i doubt floyd woulds till fight him. money is not the real issue here, it was floyd and his refusal to fight someone like pacquiao.