Manny Pacquiao vs Ryan Garcia

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  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hope you’re trolling, Pac will laugh off Ryan’s punches.

    People forget that Pac hasn’t been knocked out past BW except by a roided to the gills JMM catching him with a perfect shot on their 4th fight, very specific circumstances. Yet, ever since then, every guy was going to knock pac out, including Bradley and Floyd lmao.

    Pac has an iron chin, it’s like everyone forgot.

    Also, Pac is still faster than Ryan, levels.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum: Reject The New Normal Staff Member

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    He's 42. Sooner or later his age is going to catch up with him. Not saying he's going to KO Pacquiao, just said it wouldn't shock me.
     
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  3. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ryan punches as hard as prime DLH or Diego Corrales, but he will need luck to catch Pacman clean.

    Having the raw power is one thing, delivering the power is a much harder mission, especially vs Pacman

    • Pacman psi is at 850
    • Ryan Garcia psi is at 1000+
    Pacman usually delivers more psi in any fight he wins, he lands at 50% impact lots of 700 range psi punches, it starts as shocking light punches but it quickly adds up & landing any 70% impact punch can get the KO

    Ryan is much more limited, he has more psi but so far he never shown anything that proves he has advanced psi-delivery capabilities, if he can KO Pacman or Tank Davis, then we know he is as good as DLH or Diego Corrales in that department...
     
  4. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nahh Pacquiao wont be a weight drained DLH...
     
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  5. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pacman is slightly faster both on feet and hands, but Kingry is clearly the harder puncher & very fast for his height. If he lands any 50% impact shot he will KO Pacman, Ryan is not as skilled-sneaky as JMM to catch Pacman with needle precision as JMM did, so he will have to try to be the first man to walk through Pacman and KO him, the problem with that approach is that Pacman sends combination that are sometimes closed at 850 psi, no human can walk through that. Kingry best power-shot is an angled hook which means he will have to be inside the range of Pacman straight combos to land the big one.
     
  6. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, Pacquiao won't. He will put Ryan into a good sleep.
     
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  7. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man Full Member

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    De la Hoyas left hook is heavier imo, faster and more serviceable too, an ko’d Fighters levels above who Garcia are fighting.
     
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  8. Cally

    Cally Active Member Full Member

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    Cringe at folk actually typing kingry.. :brush:
     
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  9. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lmao no. Do you think Garcia can do to Cotto and Margarito what Pac did? Do you think he could knock down Mosley with a single shot?

    They probably weigh close to the same on fight night.

    Power is levels, Ryan can hit fighters clean and throw haymakers at them because he’s a level above them, yet it takes many haymakers to knock someone out. When Pac landed haymakers on Hatton, looked at what happened.

    When Ryan actually fights an iron chinned top level operator, say like Mikey Garcia and manages to hurt them, then we can talk.

    Campbell is a C+ level fighter, B- at his absolute best.

    Ryan reminds me of Eubank Jr and Lemiux. Both look like very hard punchers as they are throwing haymakers constantly at sitting targets, but exposed as they moved up.

    I think Ryan is a lot better than the both above but similar case, he won’t be “exposed” but he will have a much harder time landing clean.
     
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  10. Anima

    Anima Kinetic Link Full Member

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    Pacquiao signed with Conor's paradigm sports. Just saying..
     
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  11. sparta

    sparta Active Member Full Member

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    It depends what weight the fight is at, Ryan hits like a mule and is super fast, if the fight is at 140 or below pac will have to strip weight at 42 yo, somthing he hasnt done in years, pac being stopped is a real possibility in that scenario, lead left hooks vs the southpaw is a lovely punch. At 147 its a different story.
     
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  12. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao straight left flattens Garcia. Garcia has no head movement and moves in straight lines. Easy target. No way he can bully Pac at 140, or 147 either like he did with Campbell.
     
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  13. titanic

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    Pacquiao via TKO Mid rounds
     
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  14. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pacman is not in the same category as Ryan Garcia, Pacman can send a 40 mph-800+ psi punch at you in the middle of 600psi average combo. That can drop/KO anybody if it lands clean.

    Ryan Garcia power is leverage height on speed, delivering over 1000psi, but he doesn't have the advanced delivery methods Pacman has.



    De La Hoya psi is the same as Ryan Garcia, De La Hoya had better movement and jab allowing him to deliver the 1000psi hook better than Ryan Garcia. If Garcia stays at 135, adds a better set-up scenario he will be as effective as DLH was at 135. DLH start depending more on boxing by the time he was on Welter, DLH boxed his way out of difficult fights vs Quartey, Trinidad and Vargas...Ryan Garcia will not have that boxing advantage....at least not now, maybe he optimize his jab and movement in the future
     
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  15. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree. Ryan is not yet at the same level as Pacquiao is.
     
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