Manny Pacquiao Vs Victor Ortiz or Andre Berto - How would the fight/s go?

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  1. Enigma1

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    How would Manny perform against either one of these young, hungry lions?
     
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  2. Convicted_Felon

    Convicted_Felon Certified Savage Full Member

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    They won't go because Manny Pacquiao will not even entertain the thought of fighting those young men. He doesn't want to be put in the ring against an opponent who can match his power and speed. Manny wants to be the fastest fighter in the ring. He wants to be the youngest fighter in the ring. He wants to stack the deck against his opponents to slow them down. It's bad enough that he has a major speed advantage over the majority of the guys he fights, he wants to drain them to sap them of their power as well. Shane Mosley knocked Margarito's head off and went to the wildcard to see what's good with a Pacquiao fight and they declined. They turned him down.

    People kill me with their double standards when it comes to Manny and Floyd. They call Floyd all kinds of cowards for refusing to fight this juicebot without a drug test while Pacquiao runs around and ducks fighter after fighter in favor of the easier tasks. If they can't drain them by using catchweights with outlandish penalties, they won't let Manny fight them. If they can match speed and they have some power, they won't let Manny fight them. Andre Berto and Victor Ortiz represent an element of danger that Pacquiao's handlers are unwilling to risk. Those fights will not 'go' at all. Manny Pacquiao's legacy aint gonna be much of nothing when you factor in the fights he refused to participate in. You have Floyd Mayweather who will engage the young champions and defeat them while this so-called P4P king just sits back and picks and chooses fighters who will make him look like he's a better fighter than what he really is.
     
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  3. Diamond Eye

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    They both get knocked out. Victor Ortiz is more durable, but he's also more open. He comes in squared up and ducks right into uppercuts.

    He would absorb a beating. His size and skills could make him a little competitive, or at least touch Pacquaio up, but he still gets stopped.

    Berto has very little punch resistance. He's faster than Ortiz, and he's strong, but his defense is always lacking, so Pacquaio would knock him out too, but he as well could be competitive.

    I mean, they are good fights, but ****...

    What's wrong with Mayweather vs Pacquaio?

    That's the fight people want to see. Not any of this bull****. I mean, we've been waiting for what? 3 or 4 years?
     
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  4. Diamond Eye

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    Floyd is the same way.

    He got into a real fight vs Cotto, and now he's ready to hang them up.

    Imagine if he got in there with Margarito. Pacquaio broke Margarito's orbital bone, and Margarito still kept coming.

    Pacquaio is the same guy that had Mosley runnin for his life, but Mosley stayed right in there with Alvarez.

    Pacquaio can really punch, yet Margo kept coming.

    A big strong, long, body punching, punch absorbing machine like Margarito was the worst possible match up for Mayweather. Mayweather didn't fight him because he knew he would be in a real fight.

    So, while you can say Pacquaio allegedly is ducking some people, what about Mayweather?

    I mean, can you tell me you wouldn't have wanted to see that fight? You're probably new to the sport, but back in the day, that's the fight...
     
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  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    They both have glass jaws...Ortree has a glass brain and heart on top of that....
     
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  6. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ortiz might survive to a decision because oh his size.

    Berto gets KO'd in 9 because he fights so flat footed.
     
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  7. DoYouWantThis?

    DoYouWantThis? King Elaborator Full Member

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    berto(e) gets KTFO in 6, manny will demolish ANY flatfooted fighter.
     
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  8. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've said this countless times even before Berto squared up against Ortiz.

    They are both levels below Pac and would get annihilated and outclassed.
    Pac is all wrong for both their styles.

    Timmy has a better shot than these two, and Khan of course.
     
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