Manny Pacquiao was p4p biggest puncher of the 2000s

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  1. tinman

    tinman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No because Morales dispatched Kelly with ease and Hamed was struggling against Kelly.

    I hear all the time Pacquiao doesnt have 1 punch power. At the lower weights he ices people cold with 1 shot which is extremely rare in title fights.
     
  2. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot El gran campeón Mexicano Full Member

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    by the speed he just couldn't keep up
     
  3. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis Lego-haired cherry picker Full Member

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    Broner ran like a scolded dog from the current version of Pacquiao.
     
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    Paranoid Android Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dude was LOOKING AT THE CLOCK like how much more I got to deal with this pressure?!
     
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    Oneirokritis Lego-haired cherry picker Full Member

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    Broner should be thankful it wasn't the 2009 version of Pacquiao hunting him down and blitzing him. :lol:
     
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    tinman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That version of Pacquiao shreds 99.99% of any fighter in history 140 on and down.

    He was an ANIMAL back then.
     
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    Oneirokritis Lego-haired cherry picker Full Member

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    I can remember Pacquiao badly wobbling Clottey -- who outweighed him by 20-25lbs on the night -- with a massive body shot early on in their fight.

    When I eventually get around to building a time machine, I'll get the 2008 version of Pacquiao, and take him back to fight the 1938 version of Henry Armstrong and the 1978 version of Roberto Duran, both at Lightweight. :sisi1
     
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    tinman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Pacquiao is the only fighter in history who could stop Duran at 135. Though Duran is the better, greater and more complete fighter. Stylistically I just think his come forward style plays into Pacquiaos hand.
     
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    Paranoid Android Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2 more lower weight division guys bigger than "welterweight" Pacquiao...
     
  10. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was definitively the juiced puncher of the 2,000's
     
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    Paranoid Android Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And then at age 40, under VADA testing, he hurt Broner more than Maidana and Mikey did and had him running for survival. Hmm... Seems like Manny's always been clean to me.
     
  12. dangerousity

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    Nope, at 24 Pac was still fighting at 122 and then went up to 126 same year. At 29 he was still fighting at 130. Meanwhile Valero was already 130 at 24 and 135 by 28.

    There’s about a weight class difference between them.

    Pac’s Fight night weight hasn’t really changed for 10 years, and 10 years ago he was fighting at LW. The guy is a LW and that’s why any former LW or JWW he fought was STILL bigger than him. Floyd, Bradley, Rios, Algeri, horn, broner, Hatton, Vargas all bigger than him.

    The only exception is mathysee where I thought Pac looked bigger. And we saw how that turned out.

    Fun fact: if you watch pac’s Old fights at 130lb, the consensus at the forums and by boxing experts was that he lost power at that weight, that he has gone up too many weight classes. Which is why the odlh result was such a shock people had to make up excuses for it and say it was a fluke, he would get destroyed by any top 10 WW. When it was proven that it wasn’t a fluke, the excuses stuck.
     
  13. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pacquiao when he sits on it and throws his vaunted left hand is p4p one of the hardest punchers. No punch is more consistent is doing certain damage. Aside from maybe a garcia or Donaire left hook. One of those if it lands clean, it will do serious damage.

    Just look at the shot he hit algeiri with right as algeiri was about to come out of his cage.
     
  14. Badbot

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    Like I said, there wasn't much of a size difference between. Not enough to compare their power in a P4P manner.

    Pac has been around 150lb on fight night since he left 130lbs. The only two guys at WW who weren't heavier than him were Floyd and Bradley.
     
  15. dangerousity

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    Lol Floyd is around 155-160lb fight night. The guy used IV fluid is used for rehydrating. Either that or he’s juicing. So which is it, the guy is a juicer or has to dehydrate to 147?

    He hides his fight night weight. He also couldn’t make the weight of 144 against JMM, you think Pac would ever miss the weight for 144 because he couldn’t get down to that weight?

    And as I said, Valero is 1-2 weight classes above Pac. That still makes a difference.

    Pac was considered small for 130 when Valero was tearing 135 apart. However, close enough in weight to fight. That said, 1 weight class difference is like Hatton vs cotto.
     

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