"Manny Pacquiao's promoter trying to set up new fight with Yuri Foreman"

Or $45 for Matt Hatton vs Floyd Mayweather!

 

listen nuthugger Floyd is willing to take the blood tests Pacquiao is not. End of discussion.

Pacquiao is killing this fight by REFUSING to strict drug testing.

 

Whoa! Getting called a nuthugger from someone who is frequently on his knees blowing Floyd's shaft.....OK buddy. I'll be that since it's coming from you.:good

Floyd is willing b/c Floyd is dictating the requirements based on unfounded and unjustified RUMORS! Floyd KILLED the fight before negotiations started b/c he knew he was next in line to face manny. This was a convient way out without having to say the words...."I don't want to risk my "0" against a fighter like Manny".

 

Fair enough...At least you trying to be objective unlike some of others.

I respect that my dude but let me break it down on how I took the approach on this matter...I think I've been very vocal on how I dont think Manny is doping its only a ploy for the 10 million dollar demand...with that being said, if Jr. and Sr. really feel like that...Why wont Manny just test just to shut them the **** up...Feel me??? I'm not trying to paint Manny as a bad person because I dont have proof to back up my opinion on that matter but with him refusing its starting to raise some questions...I think agreeing to this will kill any doubt and it will backfire on Jr. and Sr. if Manny were to pass but thats the problem...He wont take it!

Also....deep down inside...I think this is a public stunt on both camps to make the fight bigger than what it already is...Hopefully thats the case! I ****ing hope so!

 

Here is something else to consider.

The overweight penalty is certainly eye-popping and unprecedented. However, Floyd came in heavy for his last fight, so it's not like there is no reason for it to be stipulated. All Floyd has to do is train and show up for the weigh-in as any welterweight is expected to do. Floyd could have countered with a $25M penalty for any pound Manny comes in overweight and it would likely be a non-issue, because they are both expected to make weight as part of their normal preparation.

The Olympic-style random testing requires Manny to submit to procedures that currently are not part of any pro boxer's routine in preparation for a fight. Furthermore, Manny has never failed a drug test that would warrant being subject to these inconveniences.

One of these provisions requires a fighter to do nothing different from normal preparations, while the other requires that a fighter submit to multiple potentially disruptive interruptions during training for an invasive procedure that no other fighter currently must undergo. This significant difference between the two should be obvious.

 

Just because he hasnt failed a drug test really doesnt prove a thing given that Mosley has passed all of his past test before he admitted to taking banned substance...This is not a diss on Pacman nor am I accusing him of doping but the fact still remains that he's not making himself look good by refusing...the other fighter is taking the exact samething so what all the fuss about?

This is high profile fight so some new things may occur and you have to me demands.

At the end of the day...All Manny has to do is take the test!

 

No doubt bro! I respect your stance on this issue. I wish Manny would either just take the damn test to get the fight done or Floyd back down from the demands to get the fight done. I don't think either one is gonna happen. I've been sitting on the fence for the most part since hearing about the fight and not really picking a side. I did however say Floyd would win if the fight was made.

I do feel what you are saying about Manny shutting Floyd up, taking the tests and get this **** going. But I put myself in PAC's shoes.....but in a way that would relate to me. If someone spread some ol bull**** that questioned my character and/or reputation to my community/family and then had the nerve to demand that I prove him wrong....I'd tell them to go jump off a building. #1....b/c I'm very big on honesty and integrity and I know that I keep it 100! #2.....if these rumors have no validity or no substance and are based purely on someone, ANYONE spreading a lie, why would I agree to that?

Now......We aren't talking about Manny and FLoyd's situation where $40 Mill is on the table. That alone would warrant me giving up my left nut ( I think I could manage with one) But on a stance of PRINCIPLE....I have a hard time letting someone else dicatae my actions especially if the requests are coming from a party who is trying to tear down my rep.

I will say this. FLoyd has done a great job in forcing the ball in Manny's court. Manny is in a loose/loose situation. He can't win if he takes the test b/c he has to put his pride and principles aside to appease someone who he doesn't respect as a man.........and if he doesn't take the fight and concede to the blood testing demands his repuation will be under suspicision based on the rumors that the Mayweathers created.

As a fan I say PAC....take the test and see if you can beat Floyd on March 13th. But if PAC wins....he risks the chance that Floyd will still come up with more unfounded rumors on "WHY" PAC was able to beat him and further discrdit his repuation.

But as a Man who feels for PAC and the hit his repuation has taken without justifiable cause....I think he should stick to his guns and make Floyd give in.

 

I agree. The Malignaggi / Pac fight is the next best fight that could be made.

 

I'm not arguing that never having failed a test proves he's clean.

My point is that when trying to compare the overweight penalty as a similarly unusual request to random blood testing, there is a big difference. Floyd has failed to make weight, while Manny has never failed any test. Coming in on weight is part of every fighter's normal preparation. Submitting to random blood tests has never been a part of any fighter's normal preparation. These two contractual provisions don't carry the same weight.

 

I really don't give a flying **** about who holds belts in how many divisions or any of that nonsense. Didn't give a **** when RJJ beat a chump heavyweight for his belt and don't care about Pacs 7 belts.

I respect guys who reign in a division for years far more then I do guys who gain 6 pounds and cherrypick some alphabet belt holder. And I'm not saying that Pac hasn't fought great opponents, but I truly wonder why so many like to make a fuss over how many times you can gain weight and keep winning with the way boxing is today. Yuri Foreman? Yeah, good win, but the "OMG, this is his eight weight division belt" stuff is unneeded, it's a good win over a guy that weights a little bit more than you.

Far too much is being made about peoples "legacy's" and what not and not enough is being made about the best fighters fighting each other and proving that they are the best in a division. I don't give a **** about any of this crap as long as there is like 3 different belts in each division, and there is sooooo many divisions as there is today (Another gripe I have, but I'll leave that for another day).

Is boxing ever going to have a guy like Monzon again? Somebody that is just unstoppable in his division, and that fights at his own ideal weight and doesn't worry about jumping around for the hell of it?

 

Yeah, Pac going up another weight division to fight a legit but possibly weak champion is a disgrace. How dare of this former 106-pounder to do this. It's unacceptable.

 

I dont think that will be possible if he doesnt agree to the blood testing.
Its too sketchy now and the only way to not have a question mark on his legacy will be to agree to the test and fight PBF. Win or lose that will save his legacy.

 

And forever be tainted with a steroid scam... Greatness pfft

 

I was impressed with Foreman againt Santos. His got good boxing skills and showed a bit of toughness in there. He didn't look as feather-fisted as his record and reputation would suggest. This may be alot tougher for Pac then as expected.

I hope gets his 8th division title, then fights Mosley. If Mayweather agrees to fight him after that with no bitching, he should fight him. If Mayweather will still hold the same bull**** demands, then **** him Pac should retire as Pac doesn't need him.

 

$49.95 for Pacquiao vs Foreman would be a bargain to see history...