Manny Pacquiao's Resume From 2010-2019 Is ATG Worthy For ANY Fighter...

Oh I was. But yes it's a helluva run

 

Stop with the excuses man and move on the results won't change and Pac is still an ATG.

 

Researched Manny Horn, Pacquiao totally won that fight. When I saw it live I had draw but I was distracted

 

Damn. You sure showed me.

 

Pacquiao's is a amazing Legend , deadly boxer
A gentleman
Amazing achievement'$
Will be remembered for ever
I take my hat off thankin Pac for a great time .

 

No Pacquiao wasn't caught. Neither was Marquez by your logic.

Don't use the trainer bs either.

If getting caught is the standard then you have to hold everyone to the same standard

 

Outside of MVC I don't know anyone who says Pacquiao isn't an ATG

 

Why was he never caught then?? Floyd was caught but was allowed to walk by the NSAC. Has had several suspicious test results as well Manny has none

 

I didn’t say that was the standard, I listed the standards. Failed A samples, illegal IVs, hiding a known cheat as an s&c coach. Either outright caught or give me a smoking gun.

There is none with Pac. The evidence is 0.

Just a bunch of unsubstantiated accusations.

Meanwhile JMM hires a known cheat, a guy who claims every top athlete is on PED in order to compete so use your logic on that, unless he don’t think JMM is a top athlete.

 

Naaah. That's just more unnecessary silly talk IMO. If you want to start going down that road it gets very easy to discredit many of Manny's biggest wins.

 

You're such a hypocrite. You have no right to talk about cheating in boxing when you vehemently defend the scumbag cheat of all scumbag cheats Tony "The Brick-handed Coward" Margarito.

 

I wouldn't say for any fighter, because the first 70 or so years in boxing, they averaged about 100 fights per career. Some as many as 200.

I could envision out of 160+ fights Pac would've been say , oh, 140-24-6. That would've been something but then again I am stating this reel time. I would literally have to find a decade to begin his career @ flyweight beyond 2 decades...(BTW this is ridiculous to have such fire to fight as long as he has.)

If we put him Fly in 1920s, he would have fought Benny Leonard & era. Moving up, he would've met Kid Chocolate Benny Bass Tony Canzoneri.
20 years later Pac fights at 140+, so this would be the 1940s. I love Pac. But to think he would beat the majority in that era in his 40s? Wleterweights in the 1940s was golden. If Ray R was here today, would he think Pac's resume was gr8? Would he point out those he could have or should have faced? Lamotta said Hagler & Ray Leonard didnt fight the best like in his era.
So, too did Jack Johnson on Joe Louis....get the picture..LOL!

Even if we started him off in the 1940s up to the 1960s, man, there are way too many guys we don't or can't give credit to. We weren't alive then! Well maybe 3 or 4 here? LOL!
How does Pac deal with the master of fouls Fritzie Zivac? Does he take on any from murders row like Charlie Burley? He fought dudes 40lbs over his weight and stopped them, catchweight wasn't his thang like today's fighters Floyd, Canelo etc.

And the amount of punches thrown by Pacman vs Hank Armstrong would've been bewildering, but I am supposed to think he can beat Homicidal 3 out of 5? 4 out 4? That his career is on par with Hank's? Can't say how many were tomato cans or not.

How does Morales box him well, Floyd does, but not Ray Robinson?
All these names mentioned took on fighters in which we don't know how good or bad they were. What issues they had when the loss, what nights did they catch on fire and perform the fight of their lives.


Pac career looks great to modern day fans. In the 1920s-1950s...IMO he would have faced so many of the best, as there was no haggling with promoters and divisions like today. He would want to fight the best...so I think he would have had a great resume, but he would have taken plenty I mean plenty of whoopins. just IMO.

Are there any Old timers here over age 50? Like to hear your take on Manny having a career any fighter from boxing's inception would admire. What old timers alive today have no issues with winning titles on catching a foe at a certain weight?
Maybe past fighters feel that way and agree.