Manny Pacquiao's Shoulder Injury in the Floyd Mayweather Fight (The Eye Test)

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  1. Zimornsky

    Zimornsky King Fluid IV = CHEAT banned

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    All of the doctors and physicians on this forum keep saying that there were no signs that Pac was fighting w/ a shoulder injury. Pac was throwing vicious right hooks, they said. Pac raised his arms at the end of the fight, they said.

    I ask you haters this:

    How many times have you identified that an MLB pitcher on the mound is pitching through a torn rotator cuff? Please identify the unique motion(s) in the pitcher's mechanics that suggests he is pitching through a torn rotator cuff. Oh, wait, YOU CAN'T.

    What happens is this:

    The pitcher's command is way off and his velocity has dropped. But the immediate thought is that he is experiencing fatigue in extreme heat (a July game in Arizona, for example). One or two more starts and the guy gets lit up. Then MRI and tests finally reveal the torn rotator cuff.

    My point? Adrenaline and competitive nature powers an athlete through this.

    EXAMPLE:

    Curt Schilling in game 6. The dude's ankle was bleeding because he had a tendon sewn back onto his ankle!!! What happened? He allowed 1 run in 7 innings of work against the vaunted Yankees offense and pitched the game of his life.

    If the cameras never zoomed in on his ankle, no one would have known that he was pitching through extreme pain. How did Curt Schilling, at his advance age in the game, not just battle through the pain, but DOMINATE the opposition? Adrenaline.

    I make this point because pitchers put more stress on their arms than boxers. Not only do they have to generate a significant amount of force to throw pitches, but they have to replicate the motion throughout an entire game (could be 140 pitches). Pitchers ice their arms and shoulders after a game. Boxers don't do that. Just like you can't tell by the eye test that a pitcher isn't pitching hurt, you can't say Pac was not injured in the fight because you didn't see any signs.


    • World famous sports doctor confirmed the injury and did the operation

    • Pac stopped sparring and training for days in the middle of camp

    • Ellerbe stated that he knew for a fact that Pac had a "terrible" camp
     
  2. Zimornsky

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    Pacquiao beat Floyd 7-5 w/ one arm. DEAL WITH IT.

    :deal
     
  3. likeafire

    likeafire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't care if he had a shoulder injury! Pac is a disgrace and a fraud!!

    Did he really think he was gonna beat Floyd with one arm?? NOPE! Which begs the question, why did he fight him and why did he con us into thinking he was 100%!

    Pac is a fraud and I want my money back!
     
  4. MVC!

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  5. Zimornsky

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    Floyd ducked him for close to half a decade. If Pac had pulled out of the fight, there were no guarantees that Floyd would have fought him down the line. Hotels and flights had been booked. The juggernaut was already in motion and the injury happened in the middle of camp. And you pukes would have said Pac was scared.

    :deal
     
  6. Cap10Kirk

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    So you're saying Manny is a fraud and a THIEF!! If he was really hurt as he claims... He STOLE money from all of his fans. Shame on you Manny. Shame on you!!!
     
  7. likeafire

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    Nope I was a fan of pac (not anymore as he's a fraud) but he has 0% chance of beating Floyd with one arm and he knew it. Why give Floyd and his fans the pleasure of beating you! Just call off the fight and the X-rays from the surgery and doctors would have shut up any doubters. He made Floyd happy when he was supposed to do the opposite the fraud con artist!
     
  8. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are seriously delusional bordering on displaying disturbing mental issues.
     
  9. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anyone that has injured a rotatorcuff knows it's nothing you can just fight through.
     
  10. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    I don't think he thought Manny would last that long at the top. Manny has resilience and staying power but it was mostly driven by that one fight for both guys.
    Now that people want Floyd to fight GGG and no longer acknowledge Manny, which is bullturds, It gives Mayweather more popularity and ammo to make 100s of millions more draining a soon to be 34 year old fighter down to welterweight.
    Quote me on that, you guys keep the demand up and he will do it.
     
  11. likeafire

    likeafire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Shame on him indeed! He should go and hide away for a good few years! Nobody wants to see his face anymore!
     
  12. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also, I am not a ''hater'', a realist and a neutral, objective fan of both, whom I consider just about equal in terms of ATG and resume.
     
  13. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Receptacle.
     
  14. Tekniqs

    Tekniqs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't you ever get tired of this ****?
     
  15. itsa

    itsa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Personally I enjoy watching these emotional breakdowns on here. Entertaining. Floyd didn't just hit Manny. He hit their heart.