Manny Pacquiao's Top 7 Wins are greater than any Floyd's win

See, that's what the ignoramus doesn't get — he thinks I oppose anyone who thinks Floyd beats any version of Pac. No! I just want to see them go head to head with Pac healthy and Floyd not cycling PEDs with his IV fluids.

BTW, an injured Pac was very competitive with with a juiced Floyd. 2009—2012 Pac beats him clean.

 

Floyd obviously didn’t think that.

 

Common Opponents

• Pac smoked Hatton at his best weight
  
• Pac smoked Cotto
  
• Pac smoked Oscar
  
• Pac got KO'd by a rampaging chemically-enhanced Roidquez

• Floyd was taken deep by Oscar
• Floyd washed a flabby Marquez who went to 2 weight class, but cheated him on the scales
• Floyd was taken deep by Cotto

 

I thought Mayweathers win over Alvarez was a masterpiece. People can mention the 152 lb catchweight but Alvarez only fought above that weight once before- 153 lbs- against Austin Trout. That was a such an impressive victory IMO.

His win over an undefeated Hatton was also impressive. He fought the kingpin JWW champion who had moved up and fought a couple times at WW before facing Floyd and Mayweather beat up Hatton in Ricky's style of fight. Floyd could've easily picked him apart from the outside and didn't have to fight in a phone booth fight yet he decided to beat Hatton at his own game. Ricky was widely considered a top 10 P4P fighter at the time he faced mayweather.

His win over Mosley was also a masterpiece. Shane just came off a brutal one-sided destruction over Margarito and many expected the Floyd-Shane fight to be close to 50/50. Aside from a few shaky moments in the 2nd round, that was also a destruction.

He beat the hell out of Cotto as well and probably could've stopped him in the 11th or 12th round if he just pressed the issue a bit more.

He had a very one sided victory- pretty much a glorified sparring session- against Manny's toughest rival in JMM. It was hard to watch for me as Marquez is one of my favorite fighters ever but I had a feeling Floyd would toy with Marquez who was the # 2 P4P fighter at that juncture when they faced off. This is also with Floyd taking off nearly 22 months which is ridiculous to think about.

Lastly I'll end with an undefeated fighter who was widely considered in the top 5-6 P4P at the time in Diego Corrales. Floyd was a 3-1 (on some book sites 4-1) underdog in that match and he beat the hell out of him the entire night. It was vintage Mayweather and arguably his greatest performance.

I won't bring up his one sided victory over Manny Pacquiao himself although seeing what Manny has done since that loss only enhances Mayweather's resume that much more. Same with his victory over Canelo.

I like Manny a lot (even though I'm a big JMM fan) and I always respected the hell out of him. He's very lucky though he took on Floyd in 2015. If he met him 6 or 7 years before that, I think Floyd would've stopped him.

 

The Canelo performance was absolutely fantastic. Especially when you consider Floyd’s age. But the unnecessary C-W takes a little shine off of the win, and Canelo was naive and showed him far too respect. This current mature version of Canelo would never have stood off of him and given him as much respect.

I wouldn’t call Floyd’s win over Shane a masterpiece. That’s a big exaggeration.

His fight with Manny was a sham. After years of accusing Manny of being dirty, we had the IV incident. And Manny was clearly hampered by his shoulder injury, which he had surgery on the following week.

I’ve always believed that Floyd would always have beaten Manny due to his speed and his huge reach advantage. But if they’d have fought 6-7 years earlier, there’s no way Floyd would have knocked him out in my opinion. Because he’d have been too cautious, just like he was in their actual fight. There was a reason why Floyd wouldn’t fight him back then. He obviously wasn’t fully confident on beating him.

 

It amazes me how many people rated Shane so highly over one win. And a win over a fighter MOST don't even think highly of at all. But apparently that made Shane P4P #3, because one good win in a decade must mean you are one of the top 3 P4P fighters in the world.

 

Yeah, Shane looked great when he beat Marg, but he was badly faded. To me, he barely resembled the fighter who’d fought Oscar.

Beating him certainly wasn’t a masterpiece.

I’ve also heard Marg say that he was unwell for the fight. I’ve no idea if that was true or not.

Shane had great power and Floyd was at an advanced age, so you could say it was a good-very good win. But I wouldn’t say that it was great.

 

Shane hadn't resembled his old self since he lost to Vernon Forrest. Gone was that confident fighter. Guess that's why be BALCO'd up.

 

hatton unbeaten 2 weight Champ vs coming off devastating ko loss and 2 ugly showings after.
Oscar reigning champ at 154 coming off ko win vs coming off loss and ugly showing at weight he hasn’t been in 7yrs

Cotto current champ coming off 3 tko wins saying he felt his best ever who manny refused to rematch without another catchweight vs at a catchweight coming off ugly ko loss and debatable decision

Mosley coming off ko win over Margarito P4P rated and #1 WW who Manny ducked vs coming off a loss and draw almost 2 years later
Marquez who was P4P rated coming off what should have been a win in Pac rematch vs Manny arguably losing all 4 fights the last by KO and news flash if you knock someone down 3 times in a match and ONLY get a draw of a disputed 1 point win that means you got your ass kicked.

Canelo unbeaten unified champ vs Morales coming off a loss to MAB in fight I, Raheem in fight II and finally manny in fight III

unbeaten Corrales vs MAB after having brain surgery...

 

Floyd holds the better win over Oscar, but Manny holds the better win over Cotto.

 

honestly it’s debatable going into one fight Cotto was coming directly off a savage beating possibly being cheated and never really had time to recovered from Margo to Pacquiao, between Pac and Mayweather Cotto took the longest break of his career and got rid of some demons by beating Margo in the rematch. Also considering the fact that Manny ducked out of a rematch with Cotto because he wouldn’t agree to a catchweight, I’d say there about even if not slightly better maybe not performance but condition of opponent for Mayweather

 

I agree that fighting Manny straight after Margo wasn’t ideal. But still, Floyd fought him 3 years later, after he’d been beaten up by both Marg and Manny.

 

I believe the goto was, "Cotto was more confident and fresh & rested when FLoyd fought him.."

 

yeah but if you look closely Cotto went from Margo to a clottey to PAC b2b2b, Cotto himself admitted that after the Margo fight he lost himself and lost confidence and that he should have taken time off, he did after Pacquiao fight and went on to win 3 straight including the Margo rematch where Cotto himself stated that was the first time he’s felt healthy since the first fight. Now I won’t argue that Mayweather be a more prime version of Cotto but he definitely beat a mentally stronger and more confident Cotto, who himself admitted he was finally fully recovered in all aspects from the fight.

 

Just as predicted!!