Manny refuses again?

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  1. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    You better call ESPN and ask them to take easy on your manlove Floyd in the coming days.
     
  2. les

    les boxerman Full Member

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    none of u know whats goin on.stop the spec.talk
     
  3. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    Why the **** are people still defending either fighter? They are both equally culpable for this.
     
  4. Big_Bill_Bronzy

    Big_Bill_Bronzy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What about that *******s, not very convincing.


    What about the drug testing issue?

    I don’t want to get into specifics but I think that issue was resolved. Not as clear-cut as you may be saying it but I believe it was resolved
     
  5. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    14 day cut-off date is that random to you, go check the Mayweather's uncle last interview... Those are the facts:patsch
     
  6. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By who, just by Arum and Manny:lol:
     
  7. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    so you dont believe pacs side but you do floyd?

    yeah you're very logical:roll:
     
  8. blur

    blur WLADGLASSJAW Full Member

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    http://www.mayweather-pacquiao.com/promoter-pacquiao-is-all-in-waiting-to-hear-from-mayweather/


    Manny Pacquiao’s promoter, Bob Arum, said Tuesday that the Filipino fighter has made a significant concession on a pre-fight drug screening plan with Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s camp, adding Pacquiao is “all in. He’s agreed to what they’re demanding.”
    Arum declined to discuss purse-split negotiations but he said Pacquiao has agreed to submit to random pre-fight blood tests up to 14 days before a fight with Mayweather. The bout is tentatively scheduled for Nov. 13, most likely in Las Vegas.
    In negotiations that extended into early this year and ultimately crumbled over the drug-testing dispute, Pacquiao declined to give a blood sample closer than 24 days before the fight, a stance affirmed by an independent mediator but rejected by Mayweather.
    Pacquiao went on to defeat Joshua Clottey by a lopsided decision in March, and Mayweather easily defeated Shane Mosley in May. A fight between the 2008-09 fighter of the year Pacquiao and unbeaten Mayweather could emerge as the most lucrative in the sport’s history.
    “We don’t care who’s doing the test,” Arum said. “They stopped taking blood 18 days before [Mayweather-Mosley], so that shows they can do it and be fine.”
    However, Mayweather’s camp has not signed off on Pacquiao’s concession.
    Arum says Mayweather is still deciding whether or not he wants to fight this year. The sticking point could be the legal situation of Floyd Jr.’s uncle and trainer, Roger Mayweather, who faces a coming trial date for allegedly attacking a female boxer last year. Arum said he believes “we’ll have to fish or cut bait by the end of next week.”
    “It’s imminent,” Arum said. “I don’t think Manny would fight without [his trainer] Freddie [Roach].”
    One alternative could be Mayweather employing the training services of his father, Floyd Sr., who has trained Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton, among others.
    Regarding the drug testing, Travis Tygart, the head of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency whose organization oversaw independent drug testing of Mayweather and Mosley’s blood and urine samples, said an important distinction in the Mayweather-Mosley testing is that both fighters had agreed to be subjected to blood draws up until fight night.
    “There was no restriction on when or how we could test,” Tygart told The Times on Tuesday. “We did not need to draw blood two weeks before the fight for several reasons, including the number of blood samples we’d already taken, the samples we were able to save, and the fact that no other information had been given to us that would lead us to test again.
    “We always consider an athlete’s training when we test.”
    That last point is an important consideration for the Pacquiao camp, who have said the fighter feels weakened after giving blood.
    Tygart declined to discuss his involvement in the Mayweather-Pacquiao talks, but he highlighted why he believes it’s important for fighters to let the testers set the ground rules of who gets tested when.
    “We didn’t need to test [Mayweather or Mosley for blood in the two weeks before their fight], but we could have, and that’s an important deterrent,” Tygart said.
    Arum said, “We’re saying the same thing, that if there’s information that emerges in the final 14 days, we can go to the [state boxing] commission and ask for more tests. We can work it out. No one’s looking to pull any fast ones.”
     
  9. Taranazan

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    So you assume that all Arum says is a lie, but what Roger says is the Truth?

    BTW, what do you think about Floyd agreeing to a 14 days cut off date, just to withdraw the offer when Pac agrees to it?
     
  10. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Refuses again? When was the 2nd time or 3rd time?
     
  11. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That isn't even what Mayweather asked for. Look at the FMJ/SSM post fight. What was asked for, USADA testing.

    Why would you even say this knowing it to be false? Or did you not see the Mosley fight?
     
  12. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roger (like Roach) has nothing to do with business negotiations.

    Arum withdrew that offer by cancelling negotiations. Mayweather clearly said after the Mosley fight USADA testing or no fight.

    Why would you say these things when you know they are false?
     
  13. DobyZhee

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    why didn't floyd want to fight in Dallas Stadium?
     
  14. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    desperation on *****s part to blame Pacquiao after the media storm bashing on Mayweather in the last 24 hours.

    Hell even Snoop dog got into it.

    They just look ******ed and desperate. Mayweather has abandoned his people and his people dont know what to do at this point.
     
  15. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not at all, exactly my point why is everyone trying to point the finger at Floyd for not making the fight happen? When in reality Manny and Arum are the only ones doing the talking. I've been saying this over and over, we do not know what happens behind those doors. But the little info we do have and I try not to defend Floyd, but the reality what we do know is Floyd agreed to all of Manny's demands, but Manny refuse the random drug testing. Wants a cut-off date and this was release by Arum himself:deal