Manny Steward talks about Lennox. Great info, 'He wanted to hurt Tyson, no early ko'

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  1. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Must have been a tough choice for Tyson, fight a guy with 4 losses who brings nothing to the table, or win another title from Seldon.

    Bruno and Stewart were tough for Holy and Lewis as well

    Your obsession with Ray Mercer is worrying

    And whats Old Ray upto nowadays? sucking Kimbos dick?
     
  2. sean1982

    sean1982 Active Member Full Member

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    tyson took the title from seldon, he didnt defend it against him.
     
  3. The Mongoose

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    -It was for Seldon's title, you utterly ****ing clueless tool. How many times must you be exposed? Yes, Mike chose to fight the title claims instead of waste his time with a gate keeper outside the rankings. BTW, find one source from this time that suggests a Mercer fight was ever on the table and that Ray was in the title mix? You have no case.

    -This is just stupid. Mercer broke his god damn neck right after the Spoon fight and than contracted Hepatis B. He managed to get in two minor srub fights in 5 years. He wasn't healthy and didn't start a proper comeback until 2001 and you have already been schooled on that fact.
     
  4. The Mongoose

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    exactly, this guy has no clue, absolutely no clue.

    Just another internet warrior talking out of his ass, throwing Mercer's name around.
     
  5. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    Guess that's bad for Mercer.
    It's one good fighter Mike didn't duck, i'll concede this one.

    But he never really wanted to fight other great fighters, even in his prime. When he did face them, he either got KO'd, found a way out, or was forced to go against his will by the monetary situation.

    That's what the history books will remember. And judged by his out of the ring life, not many people will care about him either.
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    "Oh please Mr. Jesse Ferguson, I'll suck your dick if you let me win!"

    "**** you ***, I'm getting a title shot!"


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  8. sean1982

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    what good fighters did he not want to face before prison?
    who do he duck?
    when did he ever look for a way out pre prison?
    please explain in detail..
     
  9. sean1982

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    he also fought 13-14 top ten heavys (at the time they fought) before prison, more if you include the ones he fought while they were not in top ten.
    and most were in top 5!
    so who was he ducking?
     
  10. The Mongoose

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    In fact, he actually took fights with "avoided" guys like Ruddock whom Holyfield and Bowe were accused of ducking.
     
  11. travolt

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    Tell me why he paid Lennox 4 millions so he could fight Seldon, then chose to defend vs Holy anyway.
    Please explain in detail...
     
  12. sean1982

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    for one, im talking pre prison anyway!
    and two,
    Make of this what you will:
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    The World Boxing Council wants Tyson to defend against Lennox Lewis of England, a former champion and now its No. 1 contender. Lewis turned down a $13.5 million guarantee to fight Tyson. Lewis then accepted $4 million from King to step aside and allow Tyson to fight Seldon, with the proviso that Tyson, assuming he beat Seldon, would fight Lewis next. Tyson is expected to receive $30 million for fighting Seldon.
    http://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/04/sp...l?pagewanted=2

    The $13.5 million offer was reported in the NY Times prior to Tyson's scheduled fight with Seldon July 1996 (the fight was postponed0.

    BOXING MONTHLY June 1996 reports a $10 milliomn offer before the Mercer-Lewis fight and says :
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    "Tyson and King, have paid Lewis $4 million as a step-aside fee so that tyson can go ahead with his challenge to WBA champ Bruce Seldon at the MGM Grand, Las Vegas on 13 July. Much of that money may be used to cover the legal fees that Lewis's handlers in Britain, Panix Promotions, and the USA, Main events, have spent fighting his case in U.S. courts.

    Lewis prefers to look upon the huge step-aside fee as a sign that Tyson is scared of him. "If Tyson is so confident, why will he pay not to fight me ?" he asks.

    The counter-question could be asked that if Lewis was so confident, why did he turn down $10 million, the highest purse of Lewis's career, for a fight with Tyson, an offer made prior to the Mercer fight ?

    Lewis can think what he likes, but the truth is $4 million is relative chicken feed to the Tyson industry. Tyson will likely earn another $30 million payday for trashing Seldon and can well afford to spend a little in order to shut out Lewis for a while longer.

    Tyson himself will not be scared of Lewis, least of all after having seen the trouble Mercer caused him. but he and his handlers will resent being pushed around by a "Duva-friendly" judge in New Jersey. Essentially, they have spent $4 million in order to regroup and buy time before deciding their next move."
     
  13. sean1982

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    and lewis earned ALOT less in order to fight mercer than her would have that tyson offerd him.
    anyway explain who he ducked ect before prison.
     
  14. travolt

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    Whatever was printed in the news might or might not be true, as the offers and counter offers are impossible to verify.
    King was perfectly capable of lying.

    As far as Tyson adding the WBA belt to his WBC one ( like the 2 others bozos alleged earlier in this thread) , NOT REALLY:

    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennox_Lewis[/ame]

    Please explain in detail why Tyson would chose to vacate the most prestigious belt rather than face Lewis.
     
  15. sean1982

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    tyson made the offer before lewis fought mercer for less money.
    he vacated because he wanted more money than he deserved at the time, he was being a diva.
    nobody wanted tyson v lewis at the time lewis was not big and no one really liked hi.
    and there was ALOT more interest and money in fighting holyfield who he was scheduled to fight 5 years earlyer. the fight EVERYONE wanted.
    4 million to tyson was **** all to get rid of lewis so tyson could break PPV numbers again.
    its all about business not ducking. if lewis had excepted the purse there would have been a fight but lewis wanted ridiculous money for somebody that just wasnt a big draw.