Manny versus Margarito

I agree with you 100% back then Margarito was not to be ****ed with

 

They both look the same. Only today they are more tanned. The secret is in the tan.

 

The only thing that stands out are his shoulders and biceps everything else looks the same, Again let me ask you, if you have fought your entire career with out any type of Strength and Conditioning and suddenly late in your career you pick up on it, do you think its not going to make you look better?

Because if you think that it wont then your obviously disconnected from reality. the Floor routines that these guys have you undergo will bring that out of ya if your willing to stick to the work out and push yourself.

for example take a look at Delahoya when he fought Quartey, then take a look at him when he fought Trinidad his shoulders were friggen huge...

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How would Mayweather know that? Baldomir was on pace for fighter of the yr, was lineal WW champ after defeating the top rated WW in Judah. Baldomir was going into guys back yards and beating them on pace for a 17fight win streak and undefeated at WW for like 8yrs.

Margarito damn sure wasn't accomplishing the things Baldomir was during this time.

 

Y what greats, HOFers, P4Pers did he beat?

 

I could believe it, I have read that Arum doesn't like to guarantee fights, it's why Judah-Marquez didn't hapoen. But Bob says in ESPN interview he offered 8 but Floyd had a price list, either way money or guaranteed fights don't make him look like a coward.

 

The judah fight was a fluke Judah didnt take this guy serious, the Gatti win was un expected by some but most know better Gatti was shot to **** for ages long before Floyd fought him my question is how do you make fighter of the year based on those two wins?

 

By the way a troll thread turned into a pretty decent convo

 

I agree with you on Zab not taking it serious but that doesn't mean it doesn't count.

 

So let me get this straight in order to be able to win a fight against Floyd Mayweather you must have beaten a few Hall of Famers and P4P fighters is that what I am hearing from you? Do you realize just how ****ing stupid that statement is especially in a sport like this:verysad

 

we both know that!

 

I didn't bring up Gatti because I know that that fight didn't mean much.

Judah fight wasn't a fluke, Baldomir was to strong for Judah and probably came in the ring 15pds heavier then him. Same reason why Judah couldn't beat Clottey because they were to strong for Judah who couldn't hurt them and folds under pressure when he is touched.

Baldomir constantly gets dissrespected yet he went in ppls backyards and beat them, forced his way to becoming Judahs mandatory and defeated the top rate WW. Margarito meanwhile fights for vacant belts against a selected opponent that Arum puts him in with. Beats a bunch of guys who nobody really cares about and all of a sudden he is this monster.

Margarito didn't really start acomplishing things until after he fought Cintron in the rematch but by that time Mayweather an Arum weren't going to work together again.

 

No in order to validate the statement he was a fighter not to be ****ed with.