Manny Will Have the Better Defense

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Windigo, Apr 30, 2015.

  1. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    See a stoppage or UD for for Manny very similar to the Cotto fight for the same reason. Floyd will have a game plan for the hook and straight left but the uppercut will drop him. Once he realizes that he just can't duck thd left like he did with Judah he is done.
     
  2. Cisco Route

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    Yes.

    Pacquiao is in way over his head here. The opportunities to counter are going to be epic. This is going to be a right hand clinic..
     
  3. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are talking about a system not a person. Floyd's system is great. Floyd's cross guard and shoulder roll is great. Against good southpaws he has been forced to out work them because his defensive system does not work. I don't see that working with Manny.
     
  4. jg77

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    Floyd has never faced anyone like Manny, and vice versa. Both of them are right were they're suppose to be, fighting each other. 50/50 fight.
     
  5. Cisco Route

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    There is a problem with the uppercut that you've overlooked. Pacquiao will have to get close enough to Mayweather in order to land that punch. That means he'll have to get by the Mayweather jab and right hand. Not gonna happen.

    Besides that, Mayweather has an excellent uppercut of his own and Pacquiao has shown poor defense for this punch in the past...
     
  6. Cisco Route

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    :deal

    Lol..
     
  7. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    Mate, I couldn't care less man.

    You lost all credibility when you said that Manny would have a better defence than Floyd!!

    Please feel free to fire away with insults and the like, they really will not bother me in the slightest and it will probably do you some good, as you come across in your posts (particularly your abusive ones) as an angry, irrational individual.
     
  8. Windigo

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    So you admit you didn't know. You were guessing.

    And yet not one ***** has actually been able to argue that Floyd's high guard is better than Manny's.

    Your argument is that it has to be because he is Floyd. You've never even bothered to look at Floyd's high guard you just assume it's excellent.
     
  9. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    But it is the person who applies the system!!

    I can theorise the best strategy on how to beat Mayweather, but could I apply the theory in practice? Of course not!

    I don't particularly like Floyd, and I hope Pacquaio beats him hollow. But I do have the upmost respect for the PBF's boxing ability and his defensive skills are a huge part of that.
     
  10. Windigo

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    He will have no trouble getting close enough especially when Floyd ducks. Watch the Judah fight watch Floyd try and duck the left hand over and over again. If Judah had Manny's uppercut Floyd gets dropped.
     
  11. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    I feel like someone wearing a pair of rollerskates who is trying to walk up a downward travelling escalator.

    Im away to watch Forever. Goodnight.
     
  12. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :lol: Just noticed this!!

    100mg Diazapam stat.. ffs!!
     
  13. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you talking about the right? Judah had a great left uppercut with huge power. Probably his best punch.
     
  14. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But it's still a system. He is the beat at system A. System B not so much. The shoulder roll is a system. The high guard is a system. Just because someone is o e of the best ever using system A does not mean they are equal or close to equal using system B.

    There is nothing in the tape that says Floyd's high guard is very good. In ten pages no Floyd**** has actually been able to point out how Floyd's high guard is any good.

    Film don't lie. Floyd's high guard is very very basic. Yes he can put the earmuffs up but that is about it. The body movement, the arm movement, the tightness, the trip counters arw not there. There is nothing to his high guard beyond just the stance. It's amature at best.
     
  15. Windigo

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    I saud he didnt have Manny's uppercut which is a mid range offensive uppercut. Judah had a tight inside uppercut he threw as a counter. That's why he couldn't use it when Floyd ducked.