Manny Wont Stop Margarito

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  1. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont understand how all these so called experts and analysts are so sure that Manny will stop Marg in the mid-late rounds. Yes speed kills and, yes, Manny can punch, but he didnt stop Clottey, he wouldnt have stopped Cotto if Cotto was better prepared (he still would have won though), and he made an ancient Oscar De La Hoya quit. Oh, and he KOd Hatton, who was already damaged. But, Margarito is by far tougher physically and mentally than all those guys, and aside from a bad night against Shane he has shown a great ability to take a punch. Plus, Shane is a harder puncher than Manny and was able to back him up more than Manny will imo. I see Manny winning a wide decision, but I just dont see him having Margarito out on his feet.
     
  2. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont understand how all these so called experts and analysts are so sure that Manny will stop Marg in the mid-late rounds. Yes speed kills and, yes, Manny can punch, but he didnt stop Clottey, he wouldnt have stopped Cotto if Cotto was better prepared (he still would have won though), and he made an ancient Oscar De La Hoya quit. Oh, and he KOd Hatton, who was already damaged. But, Margarito is by far tougher physically and mentally than all those guys, and aside from a bad night against Shane he has shown a great ability to take a punch. Plus, Shane is a harder puncher and more physically imposing than Manny and was able to back him up more than Manny will imo. I see Manny winning a wide decision, but I just dont see him having Margarito out on his feet.
     
  3. Boxed Ears

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    I'm not sure what you mean by "if Cottoy was better prepared" but I don't think he stops Margo either.
     
  4. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Margarito is going to break alot of hearts that night.
    Those who doubted him, Those expecting to see a shell of a fighter, Those still clinging on to the "bricks" excuse, Those who want to see him get KTFO, Those who expect a blowout by Manny.. ect

    Check your tickers on the 12th. & get ready for the 13th.
    & If Margarito Win/Lose I still want to watch... where will you be?
     
  5. Boxed Ears

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    If Margo does it, I do predict the site to crash for several hours. It'll be a ****ing madhouse.
     
  6. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yeah... but between the *****s' simultaneous deadly orgasms and the *******s' simultaneous suicides ESB will probably shut down to to lack of activity.
     
  7. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I guess, like the fight itself, the after-effect could go either way. :think
     
  8. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    The f'd up part is that if Manny don't look like GOD in human form on the 13th some ***** posters are going to start saying he is shot.... ect

    So get ready to hear it.

    Win/Lose I give Manny crazy props for bringing Margarito back, dudes career was OVER.
     
  9. unsigned_userv2

    unsigned_userv2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    First off I don't think Pacquiao will KO or TKO Margarito, but in the same breath I think Pac will win a wide decision.

    I agree with your argument about Pac not getting a KO and understand why you chose that reasoning but I think you are a little misguided, trying to discredit Pac's power rather than credit his opponent:-

    Clottey: Clottey has an iron chin and a watertight defense. Simply put, he didn't come to fight, barely threw any punches therefore never was in danger of catching enough punches to do any damages. Manny is an accumalitative puncher who relies on accuracy. You don't open up/make him miss then the bigger fighters will probably won't be annihilated by 1 punch.

    Cotto: Cotto lost fair and square and was fully prepared (to what his trainers gameplan was). Apart from Margs, nobody has beat up Cotto like that, and Marg's win has it's suspicions. Even though I'll concede he did have a shaky chin at junior welter, he has been very solid at welter. Just ask Mosley.

    Hatton: The damaged goods is a rubbish argument. He had a solid win against Lazacano (a good puncher), and Malignaggi (A feather-fisted but very slick fighter). Hatton got KO with a big punch because A. He ate about 8 or 9 clean counter right hooks in the first two rounds and B. Had his hands down and walked straight into Manny's money shot.

    De La Hoya: He has one of the toughest chins in boxing and with the exception of Hopkins (Which was a kidney shot KO) he has not been seriously hurt by physically bigger (and probably harder punchers) opponents than Pac (Trinidad, Vargas, Chavez, Mayorga etc).
     
  10. NALLEGE

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    Speed kills, and AM can't box. It all adds up to AM receiving a beat down and stopped imo...
     
  11. NALLEGE

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    Pac's lost before so it won't be a mad house should AM win...:good
     
  12. GOW7

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    I like the enthusiasm for Margarito but quite honestly its just like Roach told Margarito straight to his face."Iwatched your last 2 fights". And you all saw Margo's reaction. He was stomped. Lets go back even further to the Cotto fight. Loaded bricks or not if Cotto had more power and stamina (which Pacquiao without question does) he couldve easily won. He was landing everything he threw on Margarito the first 5 rounds easily . Shane, same deal. PW, same deal. Bottom line is that Margarito has trouble with handspeed. Add power to the handspeed like Shane and Manny and its Pac via KO9 or 10 easily.

    Manny has superior speed,"footwork" and combination punching over Cotto who was able to land combinations sucessfuly and get out of dodge which is the same strategy Roach will employ. The difference will be that Manny will have the stamina to go the full 12 rounds and his power will have more effect equal to what Shanes blows had on Margarito . Margarito's only advantage is his size and durability . Its good he's had a break to recover but the damage from shots he's taken is untold and it'll become apparent this fight with accumilation of power punches landing .

    Heres Margarito's only chance though. If you watch the 1st round of Oscar vs Pacquiao, Oscar landed a nice body shot that froze and stunned Manny. Margarito should not head hunt the first half at all. He's going to get hit anyways so he might as well go to Manny's body while getting hit in the head. Manny's face busts up easily but its his body thats his real weak point. If Margarito manages to hurt Manny's body he will win hands down in Cotto fashion chasing Manny down and maybe making him submit. But this is all banking on if his chin will be able to hold up to Manny's power so in all likely hood Manny is going to win. Margarito also likes to uppercut also which he can have sucess with but his only concern should be body now, head later.
     
  13. NALLEGE

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    Good post. If AM had some speed, he'd be ok, but I see PAc beating AM down. AM just can't take a body shot. AM tko in 9 anyway:lol:...
     
  14. dhralf

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    Mosley won't stop Margarito....ooh ****....its already done.
     
  15. PNoyFightFanUSN

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    I don't know where people get the idea that he'll knock out Margarito. I'm not expecting that. I'm expecting him to out move and sting him repeatedly ala DLH.
    EDIT: That's if Marg doesn't land any of those nasty ass body uppercuts on Manny. If he can stay away from those, it should be an easier night for Manny than if Marg starts landing those. I cringe when I watch AM's Cotto-Mosley undercard fight against Golden Johnson. Dude probably **** and pissed blood for the rest of the weekend.