Manny's ATG Ranking?

Nah it was one of my favourite boxing moments ever. Not as good as Mosley knocking out Margo, but not far off.

If it upsets you, atleast you're doing the right thing by talking about it.

Crass embellishment? You said you have him number 35. Considering how many boxers have ever competed, we're dealing with the same percentile. We're splitting hairs here.

Yes and out of those you listed, some of those got iced themselves. It happens.

 

Not saying those I mentioned did not lose though honestly the manner of the knockout victory of Marquez over him was shocking.

Number 35 is extremely high you are correct and is more than worthy but some of his fan boys are upset if he is not in the top 10.

Sugar Shane Mosley knocking out Margarito the cheating scumbag I agree was one of the greatest moments in boxing. Fanboys and personal friends of Margacheato like our good friend @C.J. are still affected by the trauma.

 

But for every fan who gets upset when you don't rank him top ten, you have another fan who gets upset when you do rank him top ten.

 

It’s because they are fan boys incapable of viewing things objectively. Remember the narrative building beforehand that had he beaten Spence he would be the GOAT when the truth is God saved Pacquiao from a humiliating defeat at the hands of Spence had it been Spence Pacquiao faced instead of Ugas.

 

You rank Floyd as the best ever.

I'm done.

 

Floyd is far superior to Pacquiao there is no comparison.

 

I'm not comparing them. I'm ridiculing your hypocrisy.

 

TOP 10 for me.

You can't discount what he did, 8 weight world champion. He has no business being at 147 and yet he is and has been very succesful at the weight. Just the fact that he was a champion in 8 different weight classes gets him into the top 10. His resume is absolutely unbelievable as well, one of the best.

Weirdly enough though, I enjoyed watching Mayweather more than Manny even though Manny is a much more exciting fighter but there is just something beautiful about how calculated and economical Money Mayweather was with his work inside the ring.

 

What hypocrisy because I said Floyd is rightly TBE.

Questions for you:

1. Who for you is TBE(The Best Ever) boxer?
2. Who for you is GOAT(The Greatest Of All Time)?
3. Who is Pound for Pound the best fighter and champion ?

Are these all one fighter or 3 separate fighters?

 

Robinson is all 3 for me.

But what's hypocrisy is that you are so adamant that Pacquiao should not be ranked at a certain level claiming his fans over rate him, whilst also proclaiming Floyd is TBE, which is quite clearly over rating him.

 

Nothing weird about preferring to watch Mayweather more because he was the technical superior and more skilled practitioner of the art of boxing. Not surprisingly he came from the Michigan school of boxing in the Mid West USA where all the next boxers come from.

 

No for me it’s :
Mayweather as TBE
Ali as GOAT
SRR as P4P

Nothing hypocritical Pacquiao just not in that class of fighter.

Ali destroyed Liston and Foreman 2 big bad monsters nobody else could beat whose reigns would have been longer but they ran into Muhammad the Black Superman as he called himself who had their Kryptonite.

Look I call it as I see it objectively. I like Pacquiao but I will not overrate him nor underrate him.

I don’t particularly care for Super Joe Calzaghe as a man but I will admit he is the greatest British fighter of all time especially as I don’t think we can really consider Lennox Lewis British despite his name:

L for London
E for England
W for Wales
I for Ireland and
S for Scotland

 

Just to be clear nobody has done what Floyd has which makes him TBE.

 

Wtf

 

No one has done what any boxer in history has done.

But what is that Floyd did which convinces you he was tbe?