Manny's ATG Ranking?

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  1. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Since he was world champ in 8 divisions over 25 years

    Surely that makes him the greatest boxer ever ?!?

    Who can even compare with that record?

    (BTW - I am not even really a fan of his. Just have to acknowledge what I see).
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He was not the greatest of his era that was pbf. A top 5 ranking is ridiculous. Srl isn't even top 10 pac isn't greater than srl.
     
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  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Top 30, maybe a good amount better.
     
  4. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Pac's the greatest fighter in the history of the sport.
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    He's definitely got a case to be ahead of Ray Leonard.
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Not when his best win in over 70 fights is MAB he's not.:deal:
     
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  7. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Course he is.
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    No he doesn't. Srl did more in 40 fights than pac did in over 70. Who did pac beat who's better than Duran hearns Hagler or benitez? Who mab??? Lmfao!!! His losses are also no where as bad. He only lost to hof and atg fighters Duran and Norris and Camacho in his last 2 fights. No way in hell is pac greater than srl his resume isn't better nor Is he more skilled. How is he greater?
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Just like you said pac was going to beat ugas to right?
     
  10. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    pac definitely has the 'ali effect' going.
    it's not just his achievements in the ring that make him great, it's who he is as a man, his actions outside the ring, his compassion, and his character.
    i know i'm in the minority on here, but i just don't see him above floyd at all, and i think people not liking floyd out of the ring has a lot to do with it.
    i mean, floyd's the 'anti-pac' in almost all ways, so it's understandable to a point.

    but kids are going to grow up, see that pac and floyd fought in the same era, see that they both had terrific resumes, but only one retired undefeated having fought and beat everybody (except perhaps paul williams at ww) while pac was defeated 8 times, and that - despite pac's incredible popularity - it was floyd who became the PPV monster and everyone paid to see.
    granted, it was to see him lose in some cases, but it's also because he was always the one to beat.

    and then they'll see that floyd and pac did fight each other, and floyd won a predictable UD.
    granted, the fight should have happened 3-4 years earlier though.
     
  11. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  12. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    I never said he was gonna beat Ugas. I even said that Spence would be an easier fight. It really didn't matter anyways. This fight could have only complemented Pac's legacy. Even if he had been KO'd in 30 seconds, it wouldn't change his legacy one bit for the worse.
     
  13. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac won 8 division titles. The grestest and most recognized fighter of his generation. Top 10 ATG and probably top 5. His achievements are legendary.
     
  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Chill out.

    The only great fighter that he beat cleanly with no bull**** attached was Benitez. Hearns, Duran, and Hagler all deserved rematches (and Hagler didn't really lose). He shouldn't have lost to Duran the first time either. His resume is pretty shallow outside of that.

    Manny had so much more longevity and had success in so many more weightclasses. At some point, quantity is better than quality.
     
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  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I will ask you this again, who did pac beat that was better than Duran hearns Hagler or benitez? It's about quality over quanity he fought for so long and his best win is mab that says alot about him. The quality of the fighters pac beat were not better than who srl beat period. Pac also lost to guys he had no business losing to srl didnt.