Manny's Southpaw Advantage is a Disadvantage against Mayweather

What happened to your "You have to be a fast SP with power to beat Floyd" bull****. Or what that just you hyping Judah as some legit threat?

More of your inconsistency....:roll:

 

Man, you hate this dude.

 

Nope, don't hate him at all. Just calling him out on his bull****. Sort of like what RA did to Pimp C's hero. :yep

 

Heh, I'm a hater? Rather funny.

I already feel Mayweather beats Mosley. Mosley has a puncher's chance but has trouble with slick fighters and he'll have his hands full with Maywather. People don't seem to realize that. Pacquiao has a puncher's chance as well but I wouldn't favor him currently.
Likely the one who has the best chance is Paul Williams and I highly doubt that fight would happen.

 

If PBF fought Mosely and beat him, I'm pick him apart for 12 rounds and have Mosely swinging at air like he does must fighters, what excuse do you think the haters will come up with? Or do you really think the haters are going actuall give PBF his props.

 

You are a 100% correct but the boxing media is making it seem like pac would just steamroll mayweather. If boxing is on the up and up cotto should beat pac and challenge mayweather. I couldnt help but think while watching pac vs hoya that something was not right. I dont remember one time were hoya commited to a punch and missed because pac was not there. It looked to me that hoya either didnt throw or he short armed the punches. Maybe it was just pac was so amazing that night I could not believe my eyes. Anyhow, I hope Cotto punishes pac to the point were roach has to eat his words and stop the fight in the 9th round.

 

Nah they would say he's old and washed up and a prime Mosley KOS him. That's how these haters work. They did the same **** for Oscar when before their fight they said no excuses.

 

First few rounds with Judah (when Judah scored what should've been a KD) shows that a southpaw with lightning speed who can back Mayweather into the ropes has a shot. And there's one guy who is capable of doing that...

 

And his name isn't Manny.:deal Manny doesn't have the jab of Zab nor the reach nor the natural counter-puncher mentality. Manny is much more aggressive he comes in wild and off balanced he will get tooled if he comes in like that against a master counter-puncher like PBF every time.

 

You have some solid points but there's some major flaws in this post.

1. Marquez had enough power to keep Pacquiao honest when Pacquiao was weighing in at 126 and 130. People keep thinking Pacquiao is physically the same but he is 10 pounds bigger than he was back then. Marquez was an extremely powerful featherweight which is why he was able to keep the featherweight version of Pacquiao honest. I agree Floyd would be able to keep Pacquiao honest because he is an average sized WW fighting a super lightweight, but it wouldn't be easy and he would definately have to put his hands at risk.

2. Pac can get his punches off faster than Mayweather. He will stay outside of Mayweather's quick punches and will explode in bursts. He will definately lay some leather on Floyd but I think that where he will have a hard time is getting back outside.

3. Pac has the right type of offense to break through Mayweather's defense. Mayweather has issues with punches that come high and up the middle, especially from his right. He leans way to the left and give up his offense. Also Pac's right hook to the body which is almost perfect is just the right punch to get Mayweather to expose himself a little bit more for that straight left. People shouldn't confuse Marquez' defense with Floyd's. Floyd has a better overall defense but Marquez has an extremely good defense. But he has a weakness to the left hook. Recently we saw a shot Barrera tagged him JMM with many left hooks and so did Juan Diaz even when Marquez was on the defensive. Fighting out of a southpaw stance means Pacquiao really has to open himself up to attack Marquez from that angle. Floyd handles left hooks easily but his defense is less well adapted to the straight left.

4. Pac isn't open for a right uppercut counter when he moves in. The way Pac throws his flurries means that if someone tries to counter him with the right he will get tagged with a left first. You gotta counter him in combinations which is not something Floyd is very good at.

But I agree that at WW Floyd can use his size to maneuver Pacquiao around the ring, push him against the ropes, clinch him, and push him back enough to tire him out. Then he can take advatage of Manny slowing down in the later rounds. Also he has a good lead right which can trouble Manny but if wasn't for Floyd's weight advantage Pac would welcome that staight right to get his shots off and Floyd would really be in trouble.


At 147 I call this fight 50/50 but if Pac can get Floyd to come down to 143/144 I think Pac handles him.


However, I can't believe you think Floyd might knock Pacquiao out. He doesn't have a chance in hell.

 

anything Judah does, Pac does better

and that includes counterpunching

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They are both fast southpaws with a bit of power. That's where the comparison ends. I could never see Manny doing what Zab did to Floyd in those first couple of rounds he had success against PBF, he can't counter and pick his shots that well. (And Zab can't do a whole hot of things Manny is capable of)

 

uhh... no. manny doesn't have that reach advantage mayweather enjoys to counterpunch effectively. he could try counterpunching, but he'll be hitting thin air all night.

 

The worst strategy I've ever heard. What do you think is going to happen, Floyd sprinting straight in at Pacquiao like Hatton did, getting tagged? Pacquiao has next to no chance of beating Floyd in a defensive thinking fight. If Pacquiao waits around defensively, he will just lose.

 

Yep, the pathetic thing is that the better Floyd looks against Mosley, the easier their excuses will come. Actually, it goes both ways. Lets examine two scenarios.

a) Floyd eeks out a close decision against Mosley.
- "The fact that it was so close and Mosley is so old proves that Mosley would have beaten Floyd around the ring in his prime."
- "I had Mosley winning the fight by a point. It was close, but Floyd only got the decision because Mosley is on his way out of the game and the judges scored it for Floyd to protect themselves for future paydays."

b) Floyd beats Mosley in a landslide on the cards or stops Mosley inside twelve.
- "Mosley got old over night."
- "Do you really believe Floyd would have had his way this easily against Mosley in his prime? There's no way the fight goes like this if a young Mosley was in there. Mosley was a beast in his prime."