Manny's work rate will not be as big of a factor.

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  1. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I initially thought that Floyd would struggle with Pac's high work rate until I watched the first Erik Morales fight and both Marquez fights today. It was obvious that both fighters limited Pac's effectiveness as well as used his aggression against him. With the exception of Jose Luis Castillo no one has ever really posed a threat to Floyd and no one has ever out boxed him. As much as I dislike Floyd he pretty much always dictates the pace and how the fight is fought.

    I don't see Pac being able to outsmart or outwork Floyd. It would be no surprise to me if the fight between them resembled the Morales fight, whereby Floyd wins a unanimous decision by a wide margin.
     
    ricardinho, Jan 2, 2010
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  2. sandy mac

    sandy mac Active Member Full Member

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    Amen.Well said!!
     
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  3. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Floyd's activity is nowhere near the level of Marquez and Morales.
    What are you trying to say? This is confusing.
    Those dudes throw way more punches than Floyd.
     
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  4. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    The Pacquiao who fought Morales and Marquez at 130lbs is not the same as the current Pacquiao. He has improved after the 2nd Marquez fight.
     
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  5. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    The new improved huh...lol Yeah we know, we know. :lol:
     
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  6. danny4

    danny4 Member Full Member

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    i think floyd could step it up if he needed to. it's not like he has stamina problems.

    also i have a feeling that floyd will switch it up and try to back manny up. Crackhead Snr seems to think Manny can't fight going backwards...
     
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  7. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    If you are talking about the roids, find proof that he did use it. Do not say you think he did coz you are not capable of doing so. Find me facts.
     
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  8. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    If he did, that would be a very interesting fight. The old PBF from 130 will show and that will be a legendary fight.
     
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  9. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Early on It will matter a lot. Mayweather can be a slow starter like in his bouts with Judah, De La Hoya and Hatton. In all of these bouts he adapted and was the better boxer in the end.
     
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  10. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In the first Fight with Morales ... Erik made Pac punch himself out in the first 3 rounds. Pac was so tired that he was reaching. In that fight Erik fought a slower pace... Pac took the bait and wound up getting his ass kicked.

    Fighters don't change on a fundamental level so don't tell me that Pac is new and improved. Fighters make adjustments to compensate for weaknesses. Eddie Futch always said "never change a fighter". Pac might have improved his defense and right hand but he is essentially the same fighter he was when he lost to Morales.
     
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  11. Big_Bill_Bronzy

    Big_Bill_Bronzy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He has improved that much after 50 fights? Eat **** man! He's on something! I have no proof but i'm not blind.
     
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  12. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    Yeah, but his accuracy makes up for it. Why throw 10 poonches and land 3, when you can throw 5 and land 4? He has the reach and speed to make Pacquiao pay for his mistakes.
     
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  13. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Last time I saw a step up in activity, floyd was fighting at lightweight.
    He probably could go all out, but he is very judicious. He doesn't take on the volume punchers in the heavier weights.
     
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  14. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Yeah, but it's those accurate punches against paced fighters.

    George foreman said in his fight with jesus chavez, and it was true "you only get in trouble when you stop"

    If a fighter like jesus chavez was bombing floyd at 147, we'd see some severe damage take place.

    That's what guys like Paul Williams/Margarito represent, relentless punching, and at 147, that is a dangerous risk for floyd.
     
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  15. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Hatton and BAldomir were both big volume punchers. Counter punchers like Mayweather love volume punchers. Just more opportunities to counter. Stop embarrassing youself.
     
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