Many analysts say that May will reach top 10 ATG when he beats Pac

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  1. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    Money will maintain his spot at number 1 with a win againt Pac
     
  2. JohnAnthony

    JohnAnthony Boxing Junkie banned

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    Not a chance Doug Fisher said that!! I read his colunms and he does not rate mayweather that high
     
  3. Elliot

    Elliot Boxing Addict banned

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    I don't get what your confused about, I'd have to think for a little while but there are 20-35 depending on personal opinion above Mayweather in the ATG list, don't get me wrong I am a huge fan I just think he hasn't got the chance to prove himself as much higher than 15-20 because the era we are in is not filled with boxers with brilliant reputations, the only way he can get much higher is by going up more weight classes than someone with his build can handle.
     
  4. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    list your top 50

    well he is a 5 division champ not 6
     
  5. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Source or STFU!!!


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  6. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    With respect to those three guys, they are hardly what you'd call historians. I think it's very premature to rank him that high, but then again I'm not really a fan of these silly lists.
     
  7. illwill007

    illwill007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm sure that there are NO "experts", that place Mayweather at top 20 atg, let alone top 10. For mayweather to crack the top 10, he would have to do something great. You know, become a hero, defeat the odds. He would have to have a string of KO wins, go up to middle weight, super middle weight, and light heavy.

    I am not saying these things as a hater, but rather as having respect for the atg's throughout history. At this stage Mayweather has not had that great moment to secure his legacy as an ATG. Mayweather is a smart business man, careful match maker, and a very entertaining character. By choosing this path, however, his aversion to risk is why his name will always be connected to what he has not done.
     
  8. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    The longer he leaves it, the less it matters... he`s had plenty of chances but he ****ed up.... badly.
     
  9. mick557

    mick557 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What do people think of this list from Boxing News. List was released April this year.


    1. Ray Robinson
    2. Muhammad Ali
    3. Henry Armstrong
    4. Joe Louis
    5. Ray Leonard
    6. Roberto Duran
    7. Harry Greb
    8. Jimmy Wilde
    9. Willie Pep
    10. Archie Moore
    11. Benny Leonard
    12. Jack Johnson
    13. Carlos Monzon
    14. Marvin Hagler
    15. Sam Langford
    16. Stanley Ketchel
    17. Tony Canzoneri
    18. Sandy Saddler
    19. Gene Tunney
    20. Jack Dempsey
    21. Rocky Marciano
    22. Joe Gans
    23. Julio Cesar Chavez
    23. Pernell Whitaker
    25. Larry Holmes
    26. Ezzard Charles
    27. Evander Holyfield
    28. Eder Jofre
    29. Mickey Walker
    30. Thomas Hearns
    31. Alexis Arguello
    32. Jose Napoles
    33. George Foreman
    34. Joe Frazier
    35. Lennox Lewis
    36. Roy Jones Jr.
    37. Kid Gavilan
    38. Michael Spinks
    39. Barney Ross
    40. Jimmy McLarnin
    41. Floyd Mayweather
    42. Manny Pacquiao
    43. George Dixon
    44. Benny Lynch
    45. Kid Chocolate
    46. Salvador Sanchez
    47. Wilfred Benitez
    48. Ricardo Lopez
    49. Azumah Nelson
    50. Aaron Pryor
    51. Wilfredo Gomez
    52. Ike Williams
    53. Ted Lewis
    54. Ruben Olivares
    55. Carlos Zarate
    56. Jake LaMotta
    57. Khaosai Galaxy
    58. Jack Britton
    59. Manuel Ortiz
    60. Billy Conn
    61. Bob Foster
    62. Dick Tiger
    63. Nino Benvenuti
    64. Charley Burley
    65. Tommy Loughran
    66. Antonio Cervantes
    67. Eusebio Pedroza
    68. Nicolino Locche
    69. Georges Carpentier
    70. Jack Berg
    71. Mike Tyson
    72. Carlos Ortiz
    73. Bob FitzSimmons
    74. Pascual Perez
    75. Harold Johnson
    76. Harry Wills
    77. Bernard Hopkins
    78. Juan Manuel Marquez
    79. Marco Antonio Barrera
    80. Erik Morales
    81. Freddie Welsh
    82. Joe Brown
    83. Panama Al Brown
    84. Myung – Woo Yun
    85. Beau Jack
    86. Oscar De La Hoya
    87. Miguel Canto
    88. Tiger Flowers
    89. Pancho Villa
    90. Carmen Basilio
    91. Marcel Cerdan
    92. Les Darcy
    93. Abe Attell
    94. Ad Wolgast
    95. Joe Calzaghe
    96. Shane Mosley
    97. Jung – Koo Chang
    98. Matthew Saad Muhammad
    99.Sonny Liston
    100. John Henry Lewi
     
  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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  11. Elliot

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    I think it's a pretty fair list depending on what time you started watching boxing, relating to this question I have Mayweather a bit higher but that is because at 130 he was amazing and I feel although his accomplishments there are a tad underrated in regards to history, also has anyone ever made a list which didn't include heavyweights? because of the publicity this division got in the past I feel that it would be more interesting, don't get me wrong they deserve recognition but if they were fighting at cruiserweight with the same level of talent would people care as much?
     
  12. Dillyyo

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: And Gabe Montoya is making Floyd the honorary guest at his next fundraiser "Battered Men and Women" gala! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    What a laugh.
     
  13. Don't Sleep

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    While I respect your opinion, I disagree:

    He started at 126 and won titles all the way up to 154, with no losses.

    Won his first title in less than 2 years of his debut

    Quite possibly is the best lightweight in the history of the sport

    As I stated on a previous thread, his compubox stats rank the highest ever (I know that compubox wasn't established eary on)

    One of a few fighters (W. Pep, RJJ & maybe another) who went a round without getting hit (vs. Mosley)

    Possibly along with Hopkins and Sweet Pea, the best midfight adjuster
    (with JMM and Ward not too far behind though)

    Holds 3 records in the top 10 PPV matches

    And the list goes on and on ...
     
  14. SugarShane_24

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    Let me just fix that small blimp, Floyd never fought at 126.
     
  15. Dillyyo

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    Numbers wise Floyd will be the top dog in various statistics, but the fact is that boxing's current talent pool is not deep or good enough throughout to make Floyd climb that high the ATG, IMO. Now if we were talking lb for lb then I would have him up there as even the great SRR, who was 5 10+ only fought an opponent 16.5 lbs bigger than him. For Floyd to even go to MW would likely easily beat that spread and something he's already likely come near with ODH.