Many let their BIAS get in the way, no doubt about it WARD is an ATG

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  1. rhin0z>

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    I think ward is arguably ATG material, however if he goes to canada and defeats the super. All debate ends among the sane and reasonable.
     
  2. Bogotazo

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    He might sneak into the top 100 but it's not solidified yet.
     
  3. BCS8

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    I will concede that Ward has an ATG uppercut to the nutsack!
     
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  4. Pimp C

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    Without a doubt he's a HOF. He's an ATG as well as he's one of the best fighters of this era.
     
  5. GolovKing

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    Andre Ward is a HOF and top 10 fighter of his era, at least. That, to me, is an ATG.

    This is more fact than opinion.

    Even if you score the first Kovalev fight for Krusher, as I did. He cemented his legacy with the Super Six run.
     
  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    BORFERLINE !!!! ???????? Ypu either need gasses or are just trolling. Ward targetted Kovalevs family jewels DELIBERATELY Weekes saw it & ignored it BLATANT corrupt officiating. Why do you think the NSAC shipped Weekes pff to S Africa to a supposed RF They wanted him away rom the press
     
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    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    With the video available, I cannot see how anyone can even attempt to claim the final blows weren't low.
     
  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Ward fight proved that like most vegas officials he can be bought
     
  9. drenlou

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    What the fook is borferline???
     
  10. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's fair and well-said, I agree.

    I think the definition of ATG is the tricky bit though, if "ATG" means top 50 all-time, that'd be an entirely different ballgame.
     
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    Touche' Good to see you back PeeWee :)
     
  12. GolovKing

    GolovKing ESB Since 2006 Full Member

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    Yes, I agree Kiwi, ATG definition is tricky for sure. Is it top 50 all time, top 100? Or can we just compare guys in each era, which is what I think is best in all sports (like comparing NFL QB's Brady vs Montana vs Unitas vs Baugh). If it's guys in each era, say over a 20 year period, top 10 should be easily HOF and ATG.
     
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    To be a HOF or a real ATG

    A Ward must not practice fouling with glee.

    Instead he must honor the rules of the game

    Otherwise it will force a rejection of claims.

    For true greatness surpasses a mere victory

    When winning is marred via an elbow or knee

    Or a batter ram skull into throat or a face

    Then a victory equals a cause for disgrace.
     
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    We need to set this to music!
     
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  15. ipitythefool

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    I don't care if he's HOF, ATG, future president (you never know these days). Whatever. The fact is he's a skilled boxer but he's very dirty and so few people enjoy watching him.