Many people consider Sugar Ray Robinson the GOAT...

I'm truly sorry you see things this way mate.

My points have been solid, you all however have been brainwashed. You are sheep.

People may bring up a name, like say Armstrong, congratulations. There is a problem however, which a limited amount of video (and of questionable quality) available we have to go by a fighters record.

Let me tell you this though my friend. In 2057, on these very classic forums, I'll be pulling the same trick. With Mario Veit. Super Mario was undefeated for yonks, with the exception of two fights against Calzaghe.

In 2057 there will not be a great deal of video evidence around on Mario, so I'll be pulling the exact same trick. "Oh no, Calzaghe's resume is brilliant, just look at all those great names! Veit for instance."

This is an exact parrellel with each any every name on Robinson's record. You are all hyping up wins over Mario Veit.

 

I am aware Veit wasn't great mate.

But I will brainwash people in 2057 like you are being brainwashed now about many of the 1940s fighters.

Veit will be great in 2057, if I choose for him to be.

 

It is no different to what cross-trainer knowingly does now with an entire era.

 

If you want to go on believing boxing is the only sport which has not advanced in the last 60 years because it is 'special', then be my guest.

It is so obvious I'm not even going to elaborate further, we don't even need to look at the causes.

You are classic boxing fans, so you think boxing is somehow different, whatever the reasons, pretty much all sports have progressed over that period of time.

I am aware you will come out with counter-arguments, I don't care though. You can argue pretty much any ridiculous thing (flying spaghetti monster for example). The fact is advancements across the board in sports in substancial evidence. All the subject rubbish Pep-perts come out with is not. Debate over.