MARCH 1965 Ratings

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  1. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bob Foster, in March 1965 was rated at #27, yet many of the higher rated
    Heavyweights avoided him. Too risky.

    And #33 Chip Johnson, a southpaw Heavyweight with dynamite in his fists,
    was avoided by a few too.
    He had an 'upset' knock-out (KO 1) of Amos Johnson, in August 1964.
     
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  2. Zombieguy

    Zombieguy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's kind of weird seeing the ratings between the organizations actually match up fairly well with a few minor differences.
     
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  3. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Zombie,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    Yes, those March 1965 ratings were actually pretty good.
    Some decent fighters all through-out.

    Chip Johnson was like the Bert Cooper of the division. Very dangerous.
     
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  4. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of that list of 33 fighters, only 'one' undefeated fighter,,,,,,,Muhammad Ali.

    Both Jerry Quarry and Joe Frazier were just getting their careers started.
    'Two' upstart heavyweights,,,,James J. Woody and James Beattie rounded out #34 and #35.
     
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  5. Woller

    Woller Active Member Full Member

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    No Brian London did not lay Ingemar Johansson out cold. He flored Ingo who rose during the count and then the bell rang. Just watch the video.

    Woller
     
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  6. Il Duce

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    Espressen,,,,,,,,Sweden Newspaper has a great account of the fight.

    INGO, did get up almost immediately after being floored, with 4-seconds left in the bout,
    a fight in which he basically completely controlled.
    But he was 'dazed' upon rising, and was out of sorts for a good minute or so, after the bell rang ending the fight in Round 12.

    And photo's of him, at the bell, did show him looking out of it.

    In all fairness though, the 30+ INGO had not fought in 10 months, and his chin (punch absorbing capabilities)
    had long left him.
    He had been floored in 5 his last 6 bouts, and had been bopped to the canvas in numerous sparring
    sessions, and embarrassingly dropped in several public boxing exhibitions.
    Give him credit, he did turn down $2,000,000 to fight Sonny Liston in September 1963, and
    a tentative offer of $600,000 to fight Muhammad Ali in 1966.
     
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  7. silverking

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    Chip Johnson was another heavy whose career floundered in British rings.
    Actually a better fighter than his record suggests.

    Fought in the UK several times in 64/65, firstly drew against Johnny Prescott then stopped Henry Cooper's brother Jim in 3, sending him into retirement.

    This win got him a fight with Brian London but on one of his 'hotter' nights London stopped him in 4.

    Johnson was then matched with Henry Cooper. Cooper claimed this was a grudge fight to avenge his brother whilst Johnson boasted what he had done to one Cooper he would do to the other. Didn.t happen though, as Cooper scored one of his more impressive wins, stopping Johnson with his famous left hook in one round.

    Chip's final appearance in the UK was a rematch with Johnny Prescott, this time however Prescott floored & stopped him in 5 , on the same bill as Henry Cooper lost a controversial decision to Amos Johnson & the Billy Walker bandwagon unravelled against unheralded Eduardo Corletti.

    That was about it for Johnson as he only fought a few more times in the States losing them all. Word was he had the talent but not the dedication.
     
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  8. Il Duce

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    sking,

    Chip one of the few true southpaw heavyweights, and a very dangerous
    1st round fighter.

    Fought Rudy Clay (Cassius Clay's brother) on the undercard in Miami Beach,
    February 1964.
    Nailed Rudy in the 1st round with a left hook, and had him out on his feet, but failed to follow-up. Lost the decision, which was not well received by the crowd.

    Did floor the new Muhammad Ali in a 1965 sparring session in Miami Beach.
     
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