Marciano and Frazier if they fought in each other's era

But, if he hadn't lost a round on a foul, a round he was winning which was in turn not only taken from him but given to LaStarza, points would not have come into play, as Marciano would have won the fight 6-3-1, 6-4, 5-4-1 on the three cards. The round given to LaStarza made it 5-4-1, 5-5, 4-5-1 and so they went to the supplemental points and Marciano won there, but how can you be certain he even needed the knowdown. He won by three points on the supplemental point system.

Anyway, he DID score a knockdown, so I don't see luck having much to do with it.

I would point out that if they just took the round with the foul away from Marciano, he would have won 5-3-1, 5-4, 4-4-1, a majority decision, even without supplemental points.

 

You have a point, but that's partly what made Marciano so special to me. When he needed a big round, or he needed to get a KO, he responded marvelously. He always delivered.
The punch that knocked out Walcott is seen by some as lucky, as if it came out of the blue, but Marciano had been coming on strong and landing that right hand more and more in rounds 10-12. It wasn't all that surprising that he finally landed the big one.

 

Exactly. Marciano, great as he was, was still fairly lucky to get through all those fights without even one going down on his record with an "L" beside it. There were a few instances in which Marciano could reasonably have lost a fight with slightly different officiating or a stroke of misfortune at the wrong time. The fact that he never lost, while it is a testament to his remarkable consistency and ability, is also at least partially the result of good luck. This is another reason why it would be unlikely for Frazier, or anyone, to go 49-0 in Marciano's shoes, or anyone's; even if you're the very best and always come in shape, you're still only human, and at some point, you'll still have a bad night here and there, and the odds are that things won't go your way on at least one of those occasions.

 

Rocky did not retire young though. For the style he used. thsos type of fighters are usely shot by 32(Age Marciano retire at 33) And are over the hill by 33 or 34. That type of style is a young man's style. I think Marciano had a year or so before he would have been beating imo. Marciano retire at the right time. As I said before, that swarmer style just takes a big impact on the body. by the Cockell fight, the Rock had all ready lost his hand speed.

 

Threads like that are the reason why I almost never post here anymore, fighters like Leon Spinks, Chuvalo, Bonavena, etc. would beat Marciano probably and Frazier would have gone EASILY 49-0-0 too or even greater...


that´s really sad and laughable how some "experts" rank/ see Marciano, it wouldn´t be so if he would have been black and if he was big and heavy with 30 % body fat (I don´t know why, but it seems to be that some people think it´s SUCH a big advantage...)