Marciano Contemplated Coming Back For Sonny.

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Oh dear...:lol:
     
  2. CarlChilders

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    Rocky Marciano couldn't even beat the 160 pound Ted Lowry who had a career record of 70 wins and 68 loses. Lowry toyed with Marciano and could of knocked him out when h chose too. Logic will dictate that a prime Roy Jones Jr who was much faster, much harder to hit and much quicker hands and more power than Lowry would of knocked Marciano out.
     
  3. choklab

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    Yawn. :shakehead:
     
  4. Rainer

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    I am taking issue with the implication that Moore cleaned out the heavyweight division ,he didn't.
    Who Rocky didn't fight is something entirely different.Moore never fought Charles at heavyweight,never fought Walcott,Louis,Layne and the others I mentioned.Joshua is defending against Ruiz, who was beaten by Parker,who in turn was beaten by Joshua . Boxing doesn't fit neatly into pigeon holes which you appear to have been at some pains to point out on other posts.Please try and have some consistency!
     
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  5. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    Fella ,I am becoming increasingly more apprehensive about you agreeing with my posts!
     
  6. CarlChilders

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    Lol I agreed with one of your post. I looked at other post you made and you are clueless and a casual fan as well. Believe me I won't like any of your other post. In fact I will find the post I agreed with and unlike it.

    Also casual fan my point is valid. Ted Lowry was a club fighter with a career record of 70 wins and 68 loses. He wasn't known for being fast, strong, quick, or a big puncher. Pretty much every person ring side think Lowry beat Marciano and got robbed. Not only that according to these people he toyed with Marciano and could of knocked out Marciano when ever he chose too. Yeah but the 160 pound Roy Jones Jr who is much faster, much more athletic, and a much harder puncher couldn't do the same? Typical sad casual fan. This site is filled with people like you.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    Rocky was a good champion meeting the best out there for the most part.

    The win over Archie had legs,
     
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  8. CarlChilders

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    Lol Archie Moore was a natural 170 pounder. So Marciano beating him proved what? That he could beat a 40 year old 170 pound guy who had over 150 bouts?
     
  9. choklab

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    Moore was the outstanding challenger of Marcianos reign. by 1955 Baker and Valdes were the two strongest heavyweight contenders at #2 and #1. Archie had already beat Valdes and Baker yet Moore was still asked to fight Valdes a second time in a final eliminator.

    There can’t be too many heavyweight challengers who beat both #1 And #2 heavyweight contenders.
     
  10. choklab

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    Archie And Rocky were both 188lb when they fought each other.
     
  11. Rainer

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    So you will unlike my post because I said I was apprehensive about you liking it? I do so because quite frankly your attitude to other posters stinks, its so over the top, rude and crass, I can''t believe you will be on this site long.
    Matter of fact I would guess you 've probably been here before under other aliases and got banned for your behaviour.
    Back to the subject most of us want to discuss,boxing .
    I dont think any fighter was ever in a position to toy with Marciano. I haven't seen either of the Lowry v Marciano fights,have you?
    I doubt Lowry was anywhere near as low as 160lbs when he fought Marciano,I think he was certainly over the light heavyweight limit for both fights. Your modus operandi/ agenda seems to consist of insulting posters and under /over exaggerating the facts,which is basically why I was uncomfortable being aligned anywhere near you.If that's what gets your motor revving, good luck to you,but. it would be a service to me if you put me on your growing ignore list.After all you don't want to be bothered by such a clueless casual fan as me. Maybe start your own forum? Boxings Insufferable Know Alls is a catchy title.
     
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  12. Rainer

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    Immaterial and irrelevant.
     
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  13. CarlChilders

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    Who cares. My life isn't based off a boxing site. You should also learn to spell. I have on clue to what you are typing about. I don't need to see the Marciano fight. I know how to read. I know what people who watched the fight have stated. Until you travel back in time and watch the fight yourself their words have more meaning then yours. A 177 pound club fighter in Lowry toyed with Marciano. But yeah the 6'3 230 pound George Foreman, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, David Tua, Anthony Joshua , Wladimir Klitschko ect would of struggled against him? Typical delusional, casual fan logic. When was the last time a 5'10 185 pound fighter like Marciano became champion? Any half way decent heavyweight from the 70's to this day would toyed with Marciano. Any half way decent puncher from the 70's till this day would not only toyed with him but put him to sleep in a 1 or 2.

    Ted Lowry started his career at 160. Who cares how much he weighed when he fought Marciano. That is like saying if Floyd Mayweather moved up to 230 that is his natural weight. In any case Lowry weighed 177 pounds against Marciano. Which by modern standards is a really small cruiserweight. So Marciano struggling against 177 pound cruiserweights and beating other old light heavyweights/cruiserweights like Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott and Joe Louis doesn't make him a world class heavyweight. Also I don't insult anybody. I call people like you casual fans. Then I ignore them. Just like I am about to do you.

    Maybe you should just stop watching boxing all together. Maybe pic a easier sport to follow like golf. Pro boxing is way to complicated for people like you understand.
     
  14. Rainer

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    I don't subscribe to the view that any of those three are/were specially knowledgeable. DonTurner is a surly curmudgeon who thinks he knows everything,Lou Duva was a big mouthed liability in a corner and sensibly left the training and strategy to Benton.
    Gallagher was clueless in his corner work for one of that boring UK boxing family ,the Smiths? Carl Frampton calls him ,"the gobshite"
     
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  15. Rainer

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    Your life? I very much doubt you have one outside of coming on boxing forums and getting banned,changing your name, and coming back to be banned again like a sad moth to a flame.
    Don't forget to put me on ignore old friend.I'd appreciate it no end.
     
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