Marciano fast footwork, closing the distance, and using angles against Lastarza

He has to throw like that the guy is 5'11 and ducks way below under his opponents,i have no prob the way he throws it bc it was effective and at the same time made him harder to hit for the guys he fought in a side to side swiping uppercut motion. He lacked overall fluid boxing so this tactic would be smart with guys who wont move much.

Joshua is very heavy handed and has 240 plus behind his uppercuts which he actually shovels with limited torgue bc hes 6'6,his punches are much harder to see coming because he sets them up better . Lennox lewis had better torque than Joshuas uppercuts but they dont hit as hard, Joshuas that strong.

 

Well, theoretically he could throw it like an average arm punch form like Ezzard described.
But you're right, to be special, he had to punch like that. Power was his core focus, and everything else stemmed from there.

Now this is a fair analysis because you're not painting one of these guys as bad.
The biggest advantage that Joshua has against Rocky is the combination of his balance, power, and reach.
Just think about the amount of distance Joshua can cover with his jab, and compare that to the amount of distance it would take for a 5"10 69" reach guy to get him. Marciano almost has to work twice as hard in this respect.

Marciano's advantage besides his stamina is his crouching, smothering style combined with his power. If Joshua doesn't have experience against this kind of fighter, one simple misstep could put him in position where Rocky is under his jab and AJ can't see him, not knowing what he will do next. AJ should in theory be able to keep Rocky at bay, looking at their size and weight difference, but he might be harder to predict than Joshua anticipates.

Both guys can KO any human on the planet with their power.
It's a really tough pick imo.

 

Your own post shows why its not hard pick at all.....

"The biggest advantage that Joshua has against Rocky is the combination of his balance, power, and reach.
Just think about the amount of distance Joshua can cover with his jab, and compare that to the amount of distance it would take for a 5"10 69" reach guy to get him. Marciano almost has to work twice as hard in this respect."

That alone says Marciano wont win .Take into x factors ...he cuts easy,isnt as fast,doesnt have a jab to really get close,hes not just going to hop into Joshuas zone and say here i am without meeting a mac Truck who he wont be able to tie up and dominate and pick the spots when to hit when he wants.

Joshua is now facing a guy well under 200 pounds,stamina is not an issue. Joshua has NEVER been past 7 rounds and just knocked out Wlad in the 11th,not sure you know how difficult that is? On top of that Wlad was also able to hit joshua which also takes stamina out of you.Marciano is not going to impose size either like Wlad could and did. Still mind boggling how one cannot see this is a HUGE mismatch ...you are talking about joshua who i think is one of the most dangerous fighters ive ever seen and not bc hes BIG! the guy has ELITE skills and is a great athlete.

 

He doesn't need a jab to get close. He never needed to.
He can come over Joshuas jab with an overhand, or go under it, step in, and unload.

Joshua needed 2-3 rounds to recover. He said himself that was his plan, and it was really smart.
Will he gas out again like that against Marciano, or even ever again in his career Who knows, maybe not.
Regardless Rocky has much better stamina, which gives him a far greater punch output throughout the whole fight.

Someone else here said if Joshua does happen to tire badly like he did against Wlad, he's toast.
And that's probably true.

I think Joshua would have to fight a very careful fight. I think he would do best at seeing if he can absorb Rockys attacks on the inside by covering up, and timing a back step quick 1-2 to put him down. I think it's the safest way to get in a knockdown with the least amount of risk since Rocky, and would lessen the chance that Rocky ends up in a blind spot.

Rocky would probably sense that strategy and would probably be cognizant of the range rhythm, but it could definitely work.

 

LOL

 

I do train in a gym, and despite being fairly new, sometimes the coach has much more experienced fighters look at my punching form, and my uppercut. and has told me and another guy 20lb bigger than me that we are the hardest hitters in the gym. And I'm 158lb.

If you're insinuating that Rocky had no explosion or shoulder snap in the uppercut in the original post, then I must turn the question on you. Have you ever trained in a gym? Has anyone told you that you were a power puncher?

 

Want to compare your uppercut to mine?

You and I can make some good progress on this.
Once the discussion becomes about honest substance, with video examples, and common sense, I like to think I am reasonable.

But if people with no boxing experience call this and that multi-year lineal champion a bad boxer, and critic their technique with reasoning that is way off, then c'mon. We have nothing learn like that.

 

Hes never fought an athletic 6'6 guy...hes never fought a 6'3 guy even i think? If he has his average height opponent was slightly taller than him and he has only fought 10 guys not much over 200 pounds who were not that threatening to that of Joshua...come on now...lol


I like rocky hes my top 10 favorite fighter but you are making him into superman here. You always kill your own argument by posting actually why they wont win ,and then try and counteract someones view you already out did in your own post.

 

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Of course. He never shared a ring with a monster like Joshua. Not just his height or weight, but also his strength and energy.

He did fight a SHW 250lb guy but nobody knows who he is. For all we know he could've not been in shape. Either way Rocky KO'd him in one. No matter what, even 250lb on a fat person makes them durable.

He did KO a few 6'3 guys, one being 230lb who was 43-11.

Vingo was 6'4 but light, like 190lb, but Rocky almost killed him.

Nothing close to Joshua, who is a Lewis/Foreman type.
The thing about Rocky is we don't know his limit because he wasn't pushed to them. And by pushed to the limit, I mean suffering some losses.

He cleaned out, and in a violent way.
His highlight reel is one of the best in history, and it's missing like 80% of his fights. Think about that.

I honestly think it is a really hard fight to call, and I believe it would be far more competitive than most assume.
So I am just outlining the merits of the strengths of each fighter, and how each guy would have to approach the fight.

 

Very very fair.
Not the description that I have issues with.
And I agree with you.

It's people who describe him wholly as slow, lumbering, and crude.
Which is an overwhelmingly popular and yet inaccurate opinion.

 

Does your uppercut start from below your knees (and/or extend to the ceiling)?

 

That's what I thought.