Marciano fast footwork, closing the distance, and using angles against Lastarza

So after accusing me of being misleading for trying my best to recall the substance of a discussion that I admitted I couldn't completely remember, and biased for a reasonable summary of a series of posts, you compile this bizarrely incomplete and misleading sample of quotes from one post in the thread? You have some nerve.

 

You called post #6 "a great post" and didn't specify if there was anything there you disagreed with. Do you no longer agree with those statements?

I've read post #6 in its entirety and those quotes are not misleading.

 

Ezzards post was a strong critique to a compliment said about Marcianos technique throwing an uppercut.
The theme of that critique, which you spurred along, was that Marciano had bad punching technique.

 

This is all very cowardly if you ask me. He asked to compare your uppercut form. You refuse to post your own videos but keep insisting he is wrong and you are better.

" I'm not really interested in participating in any silly video challenge though. By the way, whatever happened to the video of your punching that you posted previously? If you're so proud of your technique and power would you mind reupping?"

" I don't seriously train but I can assure you that I look more advanced on the heavybag than you do in those videos (which isn't meant as a dis--as you mentioned, you've only been in the gym for less than a year). What would a video of me hitting the bag show you anyway?"

 

Absolutely.

 

He is describing an arm punch. If I followed those instructions to the letter, that punch would have no zip on it at all. I'm going to assume he left out weight shifting and pivoting for simplicity sake, what he is describing is this:

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In reality there is more than way to throw an uppercut. Here's a montage of Tyson using a huge variety of uppercuts. Some from well below the hip, some above the hip. It's situational. You can't call these uppercuts bad form because they don't fit the strict form in instructional videos for beginners. That guy up there said never go below the hip, I guess he knows better than Tyson...right?

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Exactly, and such is the case for most, if not all great punchers.

 

Look where Canelo's uppercuts start from in this clip:

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yes, he did? lol jesus ****ing christ.

 

And by that logic, there is more than one way to throw a hook. We can find plenty of highlight clips where boxers land very wide, crude haymakers on opponents who are either already hurt or momentarily preoccupied. But nobody who knows anything about boxing would rave about one of those haymakers as having the "perfect trajectory" for a hook or deny that the ideal technique for throwing a hook involves tighter, more compact motions.

 

As I explained, he described an arm punch.

 

I have no idea what's going on or what we're supposed to make of this other than that it apparently impressed Elie Sechback.

 

yes.

yes.

This is vague to the point of saying nothing. Who's opinion? What haymaker?

A "haymaker" and a compact hook are both two completely different taught punches that require different execution and trajectory. Ideal usage is on a situational basis.

A specific example would be: A bolo left hook vs a short left hook. There is no right or wrong there in terms of technique, they are just different punches.

 

What's going on is Canelo is throwing the uppercut in the motion which you pointed to as "not ideal."

What we're supposed to make of it is that you have a shallow grasp of boxing.
Because you are criticizing the way superstar punchers punch, and insinuate that instructional Boxing 101 coaches know better.

 

Let me illustrate the absurdity here.


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See what Mayweather did there.

Now here is some wanker on youtube explain the ideal looping right.

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Here is another guy explaining the right cross.

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**** all that. That punch Mayweather threw was beautiful. The trajectory was perfect, it went right around Canelo's guard and scored. The punch had magnificent form for what it was intended to do, i don't care if you can't apply so called ideal mechanics to it.