Marciano fast footwork, closing the distance, and using angles against Lastarza

I fail to see how it's an arm punch by any definition. The textbook way to throw an uppercut is the antithesis of an arm punch. You dig hard with the foot on your punching side, get a ton of force out of your hips and core, and then snap your shoulder as you reach the point of impact. The arm is basically but a whip. This is what I consider to be the textbook uppercut. Am I missing/incorrect about something?

 

I don't know what Charlie Goldman told Marciano about his uppercuts, do you? (sincere question)

As I've explained elsewhere though, Goldman almost certainly recognized that Marciano could get away with punching like that against his physically overmatched opponents. Whatever he told or didn't tell Marciano about throwing uppercuts from below his knees, I'd bet Goldman would have been more apprehensive about it if Marciano were in the ring against a top big modern heavy (including Joshua).

 

It's different man.
I know what your're talking about, but that's not what I mean by shoulder snap.

By shoulder snap I mean you can throw a punch in the air, and your shoulder creates a huge whiplash explosive movement that reverberates violently throughout your entire body. It can shake your head and your vision.

That gif of Golovkin throwing that cross? That's not normal boxing 101 technique at all.
Look at his eyes when he throws it. he loses his vision for a millisecond.
That's a special shoulder snap.

I used to punch the way you're describing like when I went to a casual gym years ago.
But then I kept trying to punch like Louis just shadow boxing messing around. And one day it was like my shoulder separated from my body, and I could launch it with barely any effort. It was actually scary at first. But I got comfortable when I realized I could punch harder and harder.

I'm still refining my ability to articulate it all.
But again, I consider normal punching as arm punching. I think Manny is the best arm puncher.

Upload footage of yourself punching the textbook way, and I'll let you know if I think it's arm punching, or shoulder snap punching.

 

No.
Why, it matters what he said all of a sudden?
You said a half decent trainer would stop you from doing that in one week.

What could he have possible told him to make that okay?

Maybe, but I give Goldman more credit than to think that he would screw up that form, because it's one of the best uppercuts I've ever seen.

Also, at first you were making fun of the punch, now you're saying it just wouldn't work on SHWs?
Don't let go of those goal posts...

 

That's neither exceptionally fast nor exceptionally brilliant footwork... nor is it a situation that calls for either of the former. He has a dying duck in front of him and backs up to create distance. Big deal.

 

First of all, I said (or meant to convey, anyway) that any decent trainer would explain why its generally poor--and risky--technique to throw uppercuts from that low. To your question though, I have no idea whether Goldman was ok with Marciano punching like that in general. I'm sure he didn't care too much about Marciano throwing such punches against harmless, battered, opponents who were out of position.

It's really not though. You seem to be enamored by the distance it travels, and you don't seem willing to acknowledge the obvious downsides of throwing uppercuts with that form.

 

btw Rez I have seen another fighter throw the uppercut in a similar way as rocky and knock there opponent out

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Oh my god, one of my favorite knockouts ever.
Great example joe, great great reference.

 

By the way @mrkoolkevin
You insinuated that I deleted footage of myself.
And asked rudely that I upload more.

And when I did, you don't say a peep?
What's up with that?

You asked me to post to back up my knowledge of technique.
So I should expect the same from you.
To post footage of yourself to back up your knowledge on technique.

 

By the way, Muhammads philly shell looks a lot like Savolds here.

 

At any rate that is a very dynamic uppercut from Rocky. He has his opponent exactly where he wants him and loads up for maximum effect. It's laced with power.

 

Yeah, I thought the footage had been removed because I couldn't find it once and I thought I remembered reading a back-and-forth with you and someone else (Galvatron?) about why it had been removed. And I didn't demand you do anything. Why are your panties in a bunch over this? Anyway, sorry if you were offended.

I don't know what you want me to say about your footage. Do you want me to critique your workout and your form? Was this generally representative of one of your typical heavybag rounds? You seemed to get some good power in some of those shots, though it was kind of hard to tell how much exactly, especially with the one long bag and the way it was swinging, tbh.

I already explained that I'm not interested in posting videos of myself hitting a bag (or revealing myself, period, for professional reasons). I don't seriously train but I can assure you that I look more advanced on the heavybag than you do in those videos (which isn't meant as a dis--as you mentioned, you've only been in the gym for less than a year). What would a video of me hitting the bag show you anyway?

 

It doesn't increase his footspeed it makes it appear quick because he has a sitting duck in front of him.Watch the first 4 rounds of the fight. I'm sorry but you have the," Emperors new clothes syndrome".

 

This is the aqua bag I was using

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Talk is cheap. I like my privacy too. I just have a feeling you don't know much about power punching. But it's all good.

 

@Contro
Holy crap man, that technique made me punch even harder.
You shouldn't have taught me that, its too much power

It helps if you are really sitting on your punches, but you cant string too many throwing like that. But definitely a great addition to my arsenal, thank you.