Marciano fast footwork, closing the distance, and using angles against Lastarza

Your hero W.Klitschko couldn't do it last Saturday when he had a dead duck in front of him for 3 rounds straight.

 

The one with the wall?
No problem man.

 

Anyone ever ask why Lewis, the SHW evolution robot didn't seem to brutalize 190-210 opponents the way Rocky did? Same size opponents...

 

Of course, anyone who doesn't agree with you is biased.

 

Which 210 opponents of any quality did Marciano brutalize?
Who are these 190lbs same size guys that Lewis failed to brutalize?

Anybody ever ask why Lewis beat the sh*t out of class superheavyweights?

 

Dang I'm out of popcorn, is this thread going to continue? I need to know.

Seriously though one can learn a bunch just watching you guys going at it. All valid arguments.

 

Why did it take 5 rounds to beat 206lb (21-7) Gorrell?
And 4 for 207 (10-5) Dixon
If he is so superior to someone like Marciano shouldn't he be cleaning these guys out in 30 seconds?

Look at the actual fights. He's destroying them, but he's not brutalizing them like Rocky.
With Rocky, most opponents end up on the ground early, bloody, with strange looks in their eyes, looking like they got shot in the face.

Shouldn't Lewis be seriously harming these guys, if he is this super monster compared to Rocky?

You guys always make it seem like modern SHWs would decimate the bad journeymen Rocky fought.
Lewis fought some of those same exact types of guys, and it wasn't always the armageddon people paint it to be.

You don't think that might be a sign of Rockys ability?
He punched way above his weight. And as a result most of his opponents looked completely destroyed.

Probably because he's one of the goats.

 

Probably because Lewis could knock you out with a single shot without disfiguring you over several rounds first, unless you have a Mike Tyson or David tua chin. Not Lewis fault if he stops most of them before their faces fall apart. He also had a different style than Marcinao and was more cautious.

 

True and true.
But still, you honestly don't see that Rocky is doing close to, or more damage to similarly sized opposition as one of the two best SHWs in history?
That doesn't make you pause and go "hmm, wait, that isn't normal."

Look at his KO percentage.
look at how quickly many of his fights ended.
Look at the damage he did to his opponents.
Look how in the very few fight films we have, how many beautifully brutal knockouts he scored. And how many of that small group of filmed opponents ended up out cold.
He punched and fought way above his weight.
Perhaps his weight gave smaller guys false courage, and most of them ended up looking like they been in there with Foreman or Joshua.

He wasn't just some 185lber, was he?

It's ironic.
It's possible that no top 10 champion had less great wins on their resume than Rocky.
Yet, I don't think a single champion in history defeated the same level of opponents that he fought, as dominantly as he did. At least something close to that effect.

 

He was an extremely hard, nasty, savage puncher. Kind of like Duran at LW in terms of the effects of his punches.

 

Ha, you're gonna make me do something goofy like post a clip in a ski mask or something. I hit plenty hard, and with decent form. I think our respective posts already show which of us "knows much about power punching" and which of us is still learning some basic fundamental concepts about it.

 

Honest question: Are you saying that it was a revelation to you that hooks are ideally to be thrown with your arm bent at 90%? I might be missing something.

 

The Rock wouldn't be there in the 6 th, he'd be done. I know what your saying though, he'd of gone for it.

 

the closer the hook is to your own body within reason is where the power is. Long hooks can be sweet also, but when your turning your body in with a short hook(something you cant do as good with a long/sweeping hook) the effects and torque is higher. You saying closer to 90 degrees is right imo. The elbow has more weight behind it instead of arm