Marciano Harder Hitter than Lennox Lewis

Louis vs marciano was his last ever fight and it's well known he only did it for the money.

 

Because they were culmative damage. If you throw 100 punches a round for 3 rounds you get KOs but not because you have a massive punch

Look Marciano was a great fighter, I just don't think HUGE power was his best attribute.

 

Holyfield was beating top 5 guys, Tyson a top10 of all time, Moorer a top 50 of all time.

Louis was still good enough to beat those contenders BUT still past it. In his prime he would have demolished the contenders he made laboured work of in his old age.

 

Of course. That's because Louis, unlike Holyfield, knew when to stop. When he got clobbered by Marciano, he realized that his fighting days were over as a title challenger. So were Holyfield's, but Holyfield still doesn't realize it.

Their records leading up to their fights with Marciano and Lewis would indicate that they were still top threats at the time.

 

But in his prime, Louis was better than Holyfield anyway (and Tyson was no longer a top 10 ATG heavyweight by the time Holyfield beat him the second time around). The bottom line is that both were about the same age, same size, and same success rate against everybody except Marciano/Lewis.

 

Holyfield actually beat and drew with Ruiz - not too bad. He beat Rahman, which is a good win. The rest were bad losses. If he wins another title it'll be impresive

 

Yes but I doubt anyone would pick Marciano to KO a 37yo Holyfield. In fact many would pick Holyfield to win.

Holyfield hadnt deteriated to losing to all the top guys like Louis had. Louis had lost to Charles in his comeback after unofficial loss to Walcot

RJJ in his prime was leagues better than BHOPs but BHOPs aged better and is tougher to beat and KO today

 

Well as a novice you have not got the same skill level that you have as a fully experienced pro so how can you compre the two. Your the one who said holyfield was as old as joe louis when each fought there respective guys, i just pointed out that marciano was 9 years younger than joe louis and lennox was 3 years younger than holyfield, so your hardly making a fair compariosn.

 

Um, Have you ever seen Marciano-Walcott II? Marciano-Matthews? And I suppose you think all of his 78-second, 63-second, 36-second, 57-second 68-second and 23-second knockouts were just because he'd thrown 10 punches a second for the whole 20-80 seconds those fights went?
How about Marciano-Layne, Marciano-Walcott I, and Marciano-Vingo? Are you aware Marciano knocked Gilbert Cardione unconscious for over 10 minutes with a shot landed 23 seconds into the fight, and put Carmine Vingo into a coma as a result of a left hook that slammed his head into the canvas in the sixth? Marciano was a great cumulative puncher and a great raw power-puncher. Those attributes are objectively undeniable.

 

Except that you're obviously ignoring that Lewis was a late bloomer and had most of his peak performances in his 30s.

 

Also joe louis was going to retire before the marciano fight and just came back for one last payday, i have no doubts that the rock would have put him away even sooner if he didn't have such respect for louis.

 

Yes, but my point is that both were in the same condition before their fights with Lewis/Marciano. Both had defeated top opponents, both were considered the clear #2 or #3 guy in the division, both were about the same age. Sure, there are details that differ, but wouldn't you agree that they're roughly equivalent?

 

I am not ignoring the fact that lewis was a late bloomer but he was more defensive a fighter by this age and his peak of aggresive fighting was between 92 and 98 when he would let his hands go more in general rather than sitting back and picking his punch's.