Marciano Harder Hitter than Lennox Lewis

1. Running fast while clearing obstacles....doesn't sound like it would hurt sprinting speed to me. Owens' methods were not so inferior if they included sprint-training (short and longer sprints, as modern sprinters do) and jump-training (long jump) but excluded weights. Weight training is a rather recent addition to sprint training--it helps, but most of the advances in speed were made before its arrival.

2. That was the amateur world record. Professionals (which is essentially what modern sprinters are) posted faster times. Seward did 9.4 seconds in the 100 yards, for instance.

3. The track and field histories I have read say that the tracks make a big difference. The track and field athletes I've spoken to agreed. There was even someone on this thread who had done track and field and said the same thing. I've run on grass (as some guys did even earlier, around Sullivan's time), on dirt, and on a modern track, and the modern track is easier.

 

Yes, I agree that this would confer an advantage if he could move his longer legs proportionately as fast. Unfortunately, since efficiency decreases with size, he would not be able to do that.

 

I believe it was China_Hand_Joe who made this argument.

 

Yeah but that guy fogey keeps telling me about stuff i haven't even said and he responded by quoting me not china joe.

 

I think he just mixed the two of you up at that point.

 

He seems to do that in every response he makes, the same happens about a million times earlier when he does the same with me and powerpuncher.

 

Joe is a bit of a troll, thats easy to see, i just don't like being banded in with people who i don't have the same opinion as.

 

It's pretty obvious that the rock's biggest name opponent was hardly in bad shape as well, i never seen anyone imply that joe louis was in bad shape. It's pretty easy to see that the older fighter's in general had better conditioning, however to make a fair comparison you do have to compare like for like, and fighters such as dempsey,louis,johnson etc should more be compared with guys like cunningham,haye and mormeck of todays era as they are of a more simular size.