Marciano Harder Hitter than Lennox Lewis

Yeah, he wasn´t that big, but I meant in contrast to today´s relationships he was just a bit small for a HW...

 

Your showing a complete miunderstanding of the science.

Mass in a punch = amount of bodyweight you can get behind a punch. Powerpunchers can get more bodyweight behind the punch. Dokes was an arm puncher and therefore did not generate as much force behind his punches.

Muscle strength creates far more mass and force behind the punch than fat/bones

 

Well perhaps, but if we thown out the 185 pound agurment(And the Rock weight 230 about in retirement) He was about the Same size as Joe Fraizer and Mike Tyson. Both short and stocky. So its not that big of a deal imo.

 

No its called science - its fact that Lennox hit harder.

The comparison is pointless. And what if the smaller/larger men are leagues better or worse

It also ignores the fact Lennox wasn't as aggressive and didnt go for KOs as aggressively.

 

I couldn´t write exactly what I mean, because my English is limited, and I´m to lazy to look now what words I should use. Your post is right, but for describing how it is with punchers and all that, your theory-talk is not sufficient, that would be too easy, I wrote it yet. How can you explain, that I sparred big and fast guys with over 240 lbs (in shape, not fat), who didn´t punch as hard as some 210 lbs-guys? That´s what I mean, it´s too difficult to explain such a complex question...

 

:nono

It´s just your opinion.

 

Walcott is an ATG, lol. He has a losing record against contenders and the fact that you called rudduck a bum is a sad joke.

 

The 210lb fighter was either stronger, faster, had better punching technique or put more power into their punch.

A fighters strength is always vastly important. And you can get 240lb men who arent strong but Lennox was very strong by 240lb standards

I would pick Marciano to be a bigger puncher than maybe a 240lb Golota but not Lennox Lewis. Golota doesnt powerpunch like Marciano.

 

No, it´s only a sad joke that you write one stupid post after the other. Walcott lost almost only against great fighters (Marciano, Charles, Louis, etc.), most fighters of history would lose against them. I called Ruddock a bum in contrast to Walcott, what he surely was. He was hyped up after he KO´d the total shot, old, and coked up Dokes. But when we look now at his career, he only KO´d bums and shot fighters...

 

How is it a stupid post? Rex Layne beat walcott, hell elmer ray and a light heavyweight like maxim beat him too. Yet ruddock is just a bum compared to him.

 

This is pretty much exactly what I was discussing in my first post. Dynamic strength is the same thing as explosive strength. it's the kind of strength that lets 130 pound bulgarian powerlifters press 400 lbs over their heads. it is well known that bodybuilders, who have extreme mass, do not possess the same kind of dynamic strength as powerlifters with less mass. the process for training and recruiting the two muscle fiber types is different, and explosive people are gifted with a percentage of muscle fibers that contract more quickly. you cannot increase the percentage of those fibers, but you can increase the size of slow-twich fiber.

A boxer may be 250 pounds, but certainly nothing beyond STATIC strength coming from moving that weight around says that he will punch HARDER than and explosive 200 pounder.

 

No, it wasn´t so, otherwise it would be logical and I would have my explanation. You always try to use your "logical" common sense, right? But I tell you something, it doesn´t always go, whether how intelligent you are...