Marciano Harder Hitter than Lennox Lewis

Would Byrd?

 

Assuming the Olympic figures accurately represent the difference between boxers' punching power, it is conceivable that Marciano hit harder if Lewis represents a lower percentile of punchers.

 

Langford is a smaller fighter than Dempsey, however.

 

This post I actually buy except Pyrros Dimas is a P4P beast so the figures for a 180lbish man is a little misleading.

Also it doesnt take into account body mass, fist size, body weight, which contribute to a massive punch.

I'd say its a little more nearer 75-80%

Also Marciano isnt as an explosive puncher as Lennox for me. dempsey is a more explosive puncher and puts forward a better argument

 

ANOTHER MASSIVE POINT!!! Marciano wore much smaller gloves, which mean a greater impact and power transition

 

Marciano biggest guys where equivalent to lewis's smallest guys, it is harder to knock out a bigger man this again is a fact. MIke tyson when slow and old couldn't dent brian mcbride or danny willimas despite hitting them with some big shots. If tyson had hit a much smaller guy with equal talent to either of those guys they would be koed, do you agree ?

 

I would agree that Dempsey is a much better example. Marciano is more of an endurance athlete than Dempsey.

With Pyrros Dimas, I will only note that he represents the same "peak" of his talent pool as guys like Reza Zadeh do for theirs. He is a P4P phenomenon partially because his "weightclass" must be relatively more efficient.

Body mass may matter, though the same force applied to different body masses will produce the same total force output. (In other words, if Marciano was as strong as Lewis, his punching power would be the same, since Lewis would need to use more force to get his body moving in the first place). On the other hand, it does bring up the concept of leverage, which Olympic lifters don't have to deal with to the same degree.

 

It may hold true to some degree, but a 200 lb. Holyfield has a better chin than Vitali, Wlad, Bowe, or Lewis.

 

Yes there are exception's and note i said two smaller guys with the same talent as mcbride and williams.

 

Danny Williams isn't really a big guy. And if Tyson ran up against a smaller, quicker guy with the same overall talent and power as McBride, he may still have lost. In that case, it may also be a matter of Tyson specifically having the wrong style at that age for dealing with a guy like Kevin.

 

Also if you use the gloves as another point in mma were they user smaller gloves a knockout is quite likely even though they are allowed to grapple as well, boxing gloves are known to cushion blows and thats why people complain about brain damage etc. The gloves marciano used where alot lighter and smaller, put lewis in the same gloves and does he have faster ko's ?