Marciano head control on the inside

That is your and many fans interpretation but it is not officially true. It's illegal.

Clinching, holding, holding and hitting and anything clever inside that is not clean punching is not legal boxing. Trust me

It goes on. We get used to seeing it. But what we are seeing is the ref using his discretion or the boxers working on his blind side. It's all illegal.

 

Wrong. Here are the WBC rules:

A list of common fouls that may be committed by boxers (or seconds, where the context is appropriate) that may be cause for penalty or disqualification is as follows:

13. Excessive holding the opponent or maintaining a clinch.

16 . Holding the opponent’s head or body with one hand while hitting with the other.

So HOLDING AND HITTING is completely illegal. Only EXCESSIVE clinching is illegal.

"Fans" like yourself need to study up.

 

I dont need to study up. The official rules are totally uncomplicated. An idiot can understand. The WBC rules are based on existing Amatuer rules. They never invented anything. I have officiated hundreds if not thousands of times. It's not rocket science. I know what I am talking about.

 

Obviously you do. The rules, as written, you have misinterpreted.

 

Who decides what's "excessive" or not ?

Queensberry rules says "no wrestling or hugging".
Clinching is wrestling.
Clinching is hugging.

If clinching was proper boxing, why would the referee ever break a clinch ?
Even when they don't penalize or warn, they break the clinch. There's a reason for that. The reason being : it's not boxing. It's illegal but evidently it's perhaps somewhat difficult to correctly officiate against.

 

The key word is "excessive". The referee decides what he himself considers excessive during any specific bout. Thus the rules in of themselves make clinching a part of the sport open to interpretation by the official in charge.

 

Boxing was around long before the WBC wrote those rules. The WBC came into existence in 1963.
The Queensberry rules are more explicit, "no wrestling or hugging".
"Clinching" is just a synonym of wrestling/hugging/grappling etc.

 

Hopkins had excellent head control especially on his way in behind a straight right. I think being a notorious butter and this go hand in hand. My prediction would be that they are expecting somewhat of a small reactive movement of the opponents head, but sometimes that doesn't happen

 

no. clinching is outside of the rules of boxing.

refs moniter a clinch only to encourage them to "work and get out" rather than break them up all the time... but he is obligated to break them up within the letter of the rules. this is because holding clinching and wrestling is not boxing.

 

No.Floyd was no great inside fighter.See Castillo and maidana fights

 

Looked good against cotto and canelo