Marciano-I Just Don't Understand It

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Not here for the fairy tales booted Full Member

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    Sure you did. :sisi3:

    At least...I hope you're lying.
     
  2. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    I respect your opinon . its all good
     
  3. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Not here for the fairy tales booted Full Member

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    Would love to hear your opinion when you get a chance to watch those fights. I think you'll be shocked at how little they jabbed and ran, and how often they tried to engage Marciano at close quarters instead.
     
  4. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Jabbed, ran , engage. They all got stopped either way


    Rocky is a bad mfer
     
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  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My favorite was Choklab's masterpiece (another thread) that Westphal landing about 5 punches on Liston is bulletproof evidence that Marciano would KO him. :lol:
     
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  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I used to be like you to. I thought the board was being harsh on Rocky and would always defend him against what I felt was unsubstantiated criticism. Then I saw him being elevated to a Supreme being by his more rabid fanboys some going as far to say nobody in history would beat him. It kinda gets hard to defend him after that.
     
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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you don't think their is a difference between taking a punch and avoiding it completely, theirs simply nothing left to say.
     
  8. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Didn't matter to marciano he took em and avoided them ...

    Didn't stop the victory
     
  9. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hey if @Dance84 thinks that, more power to him. Though I can certainly imagine Marciano knocking Larry down, I see the match as stylistically not entirely unlike (though of course ultimately more competitive than) Holmes/Berbick. Larry would have trouble working out how to deal with Rocky's height and style and perhaps go down once within the first six or seven rounds...but gain control within a round (i.e. wake up) after the kd to bust the hell out of Rocky's face. One judge rewards Rocky for his aggressiveness, the other two make it in Holmes' favor by a good three or four points (counting the 10-8) knockdown.

    I'm not sure Larry would knock down or stop Rocky, but that ugly and accurate right hand would start lumping him up by round nine.
     
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  10. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    .exactly i can see holmes stopping marciano as well
     
  11. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How did Holmes do against 5”10 power punchers who knew how to close the gap and trap? Even Holmes admitted Marciano would be one of the toughest bouts as well as Ali. That should tell you
    Why do you care for the mans opinion? You’re not gonna listen anyway lol. There is literally nothing he could say to sway your opinion. You don’t want to hear Marciano has more power and is two fisted in that regard. You don’t want to hear he has the better chin. The better stamina. The crowding constant pressure style that would drive larry crazy. You don’t want to hear that Marciano would catch him coming over the top of Larry’s jab thag he would have to drop to hit the much lower opponent (would mean he would have to leave himself open like against Tyson). Like Goldman said if you’re short make yourself shorter and it’s affective. You don’t want to hear any of it which is fine. It’s your opinion.. let the man have his
     
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  12. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He didn't do too well against the only guy who fits that description...of course, he hadn't fought in nearly two years and had just become a grandfather.

    No disrespect intended.
     
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  13. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Besides we are comparing. Holmes and Marciano two all time greats

    This isnt chisora im talking about here
     
  14. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fair points. Certainly wasn’t a prime Larry. I think when talking about all the top guys it would close fights and that is one of em thag could go either way.
     
  15. RulesMakeItInteresting

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    Absolutely agree.
     
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