Marciano-I Just Don't Understand It

Lewis won those fights and a win is a win. All fighters have fights and opponents that the winner finds awkward even though he might win every round. In no way am I saying this only happened to Lewis. Mavrovic was awkward to fight. He was outweighed yet his long arms and high work rate caused Lewis more fatigue than other fighters. Likewise the much shorter Billups was a nuisance for Lewis too with his bull like crouching. Lewis won but he found him awkward. Mercer gave Lewis a tough fight, as did Holyfeild. These guys all landed good punches on Lennox. I dont see how Rocky cannot.

 

Lewis skated both fights as the score cards indisputably show.No struggling involved whatsoever.

"Mercer and Holyfield gave Lewis tough fights,"and they wouldn't Marciano? For the record I think Holyfield beats Marciano,Charles,and Walcott .I think Mercer and Mavrovic beat, Lastarza,Mathews,C*ckell. Mavrovic was 30lbs heavier than Marciano and 5 inches taller

 

Yes on paper, there was no struggling because as you correctly put it the score cards made Lewis a clear winner over all yet we both know not struggling on paper is not the same as not having an awkward time of it in the the ring whilst winning

That's not what I was talking about, Mercer and Holyfeild May very well be difficult for a number of champions, that is by the by, what I want to draw attention to is that the struggle those guys gave Lewis produce examples for others to land their best punches in simular circumstances.

I don't think the difference between Rockys 189lb and Mavrovic 214lb is 30lb do you? The difference in weight between Mavrovic and Rocky was actually less than the difference between Mavrovic and Lewis. Lennox was 29lb heavier than Mavrovic on that occasion because he was a whopping 244 that night.

Incidentally, When Lewis fought Weaver he was 221 and was still only 227 when he fought Bruno. When Rocky fought Johnny Shkor he weighed 194lb. Still horribly outweighed by Lewis I am sure but no more than Mavrovic was against Lewis if we use 1993 version of Lewis.

 

Marciano typically weighed around 185lbs so thats 29.5lbs if you want to split hairs. TBH I'm done here, like JT your circular arguments wear me out, they go nowhere just meander here and there , cherry picking inconsequential snippets that don't really address the subject.

 

Using Rockys highest weight and Lewis lowest weight the weight differential is 30lb ...which admittedly is a lot of weight to give up... but remember, Lewis as a champion was knocked out by a guy who 17 months earlier was knocked upside down and the top of his head went crashing through a ringside table...So anything can happen.

 

Beterbiev would have a great chance of KOing Marciano

The thought of Rocky standing a hope in hell against someone like Lewis is a complete joke and shows how some simply cant move on from the past

 

Not only was Lewis a better specimen, when focussed on the task at hand he was a better boxer.

 

Taking a different slant on things, lets call Marciano a Staffordshire bull terrier.
Now my Bullmastiff has been attacked on four seperate occasions by that breed and although the Staffs may have had more fight in them it didn't exactly make much difference to the end results. Simply too much size and power to overcome.

Superheavyweights = Bullmastiff
Marciano = Staff
End result = the big dog won.

I hasten to add i detest seeing dogs fight and each time my boy was attacked he was on the lead.

 

Lewis was indeed a specimen and a great boxer. I have always said on his day he was a nightmare to beat for ANY fighter.

I dont think anybody could forecast Lewis losing by hard knock out to the guy who's head went through a ringside table.

 

Yeah, but, but, pitbulls!

 

Don't forget to use Lewis' shortest reach and height measurement (he started boxing at 14) and Marciano's longest measurements, perhaps the estimates of some here had he been born 20 decades later.

 

Maskaev was a legit power puncher who was also far bigger than Marciano.

Glassiest of glass chins though

 

I liked Maskaev. He fought everybody.

Sometimes no matter how good you are if you don't get fed the right guy at the right time a less talented fighter with better match making will look better and achieve more. Match making is everything,,and there has never been a champion who never benefited from this Marciano, Ali, Lewis, Louis included.

You have to hand it to Rahman. Against the odds he went from breaking tables with his head on the way out of the ring to knocking out Lennox Lewis when he was the best heavyweight in the world. Rahman was the knockout victim in Ring Magazine "honourable mention" for knockout of the year!!

 

Why would you post that? The tape shows Merovic making Lewis pay for mistakes with nice right hand counters. Saying the only struggle he had was being unable to gain a stoppage suggests he shut him out 120-108. That isn't how the fight played out . Meroviv won rounds.