I don't think Walcott was the slickest. And he did have a lot of wear and tear besides his age. It's not like he was unbeatable. Walcott cashed out for that second fight. And remember, a past prime Louis, although I think he lost that first fight, did KO Walcott in that second fight which was before Marciano fought him {Walcott} for the title. Louis: Shot version of Louis. Archie Moore was a LH and was blown out against Patterson a year later. Not to mention his tough battles in years prior leading up to Marciano which included being knocked out. Charles was a LH and arguably past his best. He also had some wear and tear and was changed mentally as a fighter some say after he killed someone in the ring. I think Walcott's KO win over Charles was something. Harry Mathews: Started out as a MW and was never particularly big. LH at best. If you go by who was actually good in that era, Rocky Marciano's era was more of a LH, maybe CW, era, to be honest. Size doesn't matter: Marciano never faced a legit 200+ pound HW that was very tall either. Tyson was more proven in this era than Marciano was.
Your just making stuff up, for the sake of giving Rocky Marciano a chance against Mike Tyson. Rocky Marciano was 185-187pounds in his prime, so thats what he will be against Mike Tyson. Rocky Maricano was nowhere near the hardest puncher Mike Tyson ever faced..? do you really believe that crap that is coming out of your mouth..? for real..??? Rocky Marciano was a great fighter of his time, but he was slow of foot and had slow handspeed. He was there to be hit, and if he fought during the 1970's, 1980s', 1990's. Guys like Larry Holmes, would make him look like a complete amatuer. George Foreman, would smash him to bits. Mike Tyson, would end him in one round. Joe Frazier could do everything Rocky Marciano could do, but twice as fast. No way did Rocky Marciano hit as hard as Razor Ruddock, Lennox Lewis and even Evander Holyfield in my opinion.
Your just making stuff up, for the sake of giving Rocky Marciano a chance against Mike Tyson. Rocky Marciano was 185-187pounds in his prime, so thats what he will be against Mike Tyson. Rocky Maricano was nowhere near the hardest puncher Mike Tyson ever faced..? do you really believe that crap that is coming out of your mouth..? for real..??? Rocky Marciano was a great fighter of his time, but he was slow of foot and had slow handspeed. He was there to be hit, and if he fought during the 1970's, 1980s', 1990's. Guys like Larry Holmes, would make him look like a complete amatuer. George Foreman, would smash him to bits. Mike Tyson, would end him in one round. Joe Frazier could do everything Rocky Marciano could do, but twice as fast. No way did Rocky Marciano hit as hard as Razor Ruddock, Lennox Lewis and even Evander Holyfield in my opinion
marciano used a right hand over the top that shavers decked holmes with, that snipes decked holmes with, that tyson decked holmes with. yet georgio peralta was not smashed to bits and that guy was stopped by pastrano..what makes you certain marciano wasnt tougher than peralta and did not hit harder than ali? why, because marciano was "ended" in one round? its easier to predict this if it can be based on something that happened. was marciano worse than all the guys tyson "ended" in one round? Tyson got frustrated against a lot of guys who were more conventional than marciano. dont remember frazier knocking out anyone with a right hand? dont remember Frazier winning a fight by KO after being decked himself? Dont remember frazier Knocking out a linear champion? And yet neither are remembered as being the hardest puncher by anyone else. you are entitled to your unique opinion. hmm.
Of course did. He would also beat Frazier, and probably the prime version of the guy in your avatar. :yep
Quantity is an intrinsic accident. Substance is a potential for accidental form. What belongs to Marciano (or Tyson) as substances is their potential for weight. The actualization of this substantial potential is influenced by 1) their potential; 2) their choices; 3) extrinsic influences. Some of the weight issue comes down to how we're bringing these two fighters together: is the match-up on the basis of how each was at their best?; are we surmising how they'd do against each other if they'd come along in each others day, the displaced fighter developing in analogy to how they developed in their owntime?
Loads of fighters can throw over hand right hands, that Larry Holmes faced. Rocky Marciano was 5"10 and 185/187pounds....he did not throw the same overhand right that Shavers threw, Snipes threw, or Mike Tyson. "Thats called, being a individual and oh yeh biomechanics" But he still beat them didn't he, your comparing a 185 pound slow of foot and of hand, Rocky Marciano to some fighters to who out weighed him by two stone, and also had faster hand speed and more agility. Like Mike Tyson for example. Rocky Marciano was outboxed and beaten up by a old Walcott, Larry Holmes had the greatest and fastest Jab of all-time. Had a bigger reach than Walcott, and could dance like he was listening to James Brown for 15 rounds. He would make Marciano look like a complete ******, he would be Marciano with the Jab alone Marciano never stopped any fighter with the punch resistant of George Foreman. Muhammad Ali stopped George Foreman..............shut up. Any man weighing 185/187 pounds, is a dead man up against Mike Tyson, its in the Oxford Dictionary, next to the word. "Deadman" Rocky Marciano did not have the best defence, hand slow handspeed and was slow of foot, you need to face facts that he was abit of a busier. Mike Tyson was by far technically superior to Rocky Marciano, his defence was better...and his offence more destructive. Joe Frazier beat Muhammad Ali, and decked him.......the greatest Heavyweight of all-time. Joe Frazier was faster than Rocky Marciano, Rocky Marciano can only fight one way. And that one way, coming forward with a scrappy and slow messy style, would be the wrong way up against Joe Fraiser. Listen you ****ing horrible ******, its simple maths. Its up to you weather you want to live in Koo Koo land, but guys like Razor Ruddock and Evander Holyfield hit harder than Rocky Marciano. Its simple maths, guys like Evander Holyfield where 215 pounds.....and if you under fitness conponbemts. Speed + Mass = more power. Evander Holyfield hit faster and harder than Rocky Marciano.
Listen you smug twat. You can only go off Facts, and the fact of the matter is that. Rocky Marciano was 185 pounds fighter, with slow handspeed, and he was there to be hit................... You cannot just make stuff up, to give some fighters a chance.
Shavers = 212 pounds Lewis, Vitali, Wlad = 250 pounds Valuev = 300 pounds Who hits the hardest out of the three? ****ing jerkoff...
Read the ****ing post you ****. Its not just about size, speed eqauls power. Out of all of those fighters, Lennox Lewis hit with the most speed, and was applying the most force in the shortest amount of time......."which is power". All i'm saying is, Rocky Marciano was not only smaller, but he was slow compared to Evander Holyfield. You stupid ****. Simply maths, Evander Holyfield hit harder.
By the way, SNV is usually well over three hundred pounds of manliness and p4p Julian Jacksonlike punching power.
So how come Sonny Liston hits harder than Muhamad Ali? He is slower and he is about the same size. How come some fighters with super fast hands cant break an egg relative to other fighters their size? Speed clearly dosnt equal power.
