Marciano-I Just Don't Understand It

It seems rather strange that these guys are trying desperately to gain some upper hand because Williams was “only out cold for several minutes instead of ten”. Newsflash! He was still out cold for a worrying length of time. several is an age.

I never heard of another occasion where folks are fine with somebody taking a minute to several minutes to come round, so long as it is not as long as ten minutes...as if not reaching the ten minute threshold is some kind of victory.

I remember Dave Boy Green getting iced against Sugar Ray Leonard. My god, He was out for a long time. And probably not ten minutes. Nobody celebrated Daves recovery prowess.

 

you right C but don't waste your time - they are emotionally vested - facts don't impress them - they build up Big Cat because of their obvious agenda - Big Cat was KO'd by Bob Satterfield and unconscious for several minutes by a guy who weighed 25 lbs less and was KO'd by Moore- Charles & Layne - Big Cat never proved he could be an effective puncher against the better heavyweights nor did he prove he could take a big punch from a puncher - Satterfield- Liston and dropped 2 times by 10 fight 7-3 Sylvester Jones - Big Cat was 28-0 ......So I am not calling Big Cat a bum and I didn't see you say that but they call Layne ( who KO'd Satterfield) a bum and every other Marciano opponent - facts will not change their minds. They are emotionally vested and butthurt

 

From the limited video I've seen of Cleveland Williams, he looks like a physical talent but his fundamentals are lacking. A fighter who trained in Houston in the 50s-60s probably didn't get the training and sparring that a fighter from NYC, Philly, Detroit, etc. got. Williams looks to have power, but not balance, and speed without good footwork. If Williams had moved to NYC instead of Houston he might have been a champion. A heavyweight that fought in the 50s-60s told me that he had fought in the south for a few years, and then moved to NYC. He found out that he didn't know anything about boxing until he moved. He then started fighting the best of the heavyweight division at around 25 (old for that time) and had mixed results, beating a few names and losing to some of the big names of the time.

Today there is video and there are good trainers spread around the world. In the 50s and 60s, the best training and fighters were concentrated in certain areas.

 

Unfortunately the gyms in nyc are almost all closed.

 

They were so full of hyperbole saying Big Cat was KO'd for less than a minute when I posted an article stating several - then I stated 10 minutes to see the reaction but they can not take their own medicine - LOL- you are right G - the point is Big Cat was KO'd for several minutes by a a man who was 25 lbs or more lighter - they can give it but can't take it -Ha ha

 

I posted an article that said he was KO'd for several minutes and one you came back and said less than a minute so I said 10 minutes to counter your under a minute hyperbole- then I reposted the same article I originally posted that said several - funny none of you can take your own hyperbole medicine because you were all butthurt - give it but can't take it

 

As you've been told, every contemporary account gives it as a minute or less than a minute. Your "source" to the contrary is an article written 65 years later which includes other inaccuracies such as the claim that Williams was only ranked by the Ring in 4 years.

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Nope.You flat out lied! Simple as.

 

Q.Who brought Williams into the argument in the first place?
A.The Rockista's!
Q.Now their BS about Williams being kod for 10 minutes has been exposed as a deliberate lie ,who wants to forget about him?
A.The Rockista's!

 

Bottom line.
You posted a deliberate lie and,when corrected on it did not have the balls to admit it or retract it!
And you're still lying about it here!

LIAR!

 

He was out for under a minute! More ****ing lying, more dishonesty, does it ever stop from them?

 

OMG! Are you guys for real!
Being knocked out for any length of time is very serious, not to mention, dangerous situation ffs!
I was in a amateur fight once years ago when I landed a heavy shot on a kid and his eyes rolled back as he fell into the corner post.
it was a scary sight and to be honest made it hard for me to justify boxing as a sport .
Thankfully the kid was ok after a few seconds although still groggy back in the dressing room.
You guys quibbling over how long someone was out for should be ashamed of yourselves! Believe me it is no joke.

 

You don't see the difference between," under a minute," and," ten minutes" ?
Or the reason ten minutes was, "introduced" into the argument?

 

when you were silent about the facts I posted I tested you with the same hyperbole but slightly and your anti - Marciano agenda crowd woke up- I posted the article that said several and you were silent also posted a video showing the size difference and comentors stating the size distance of Satterfield and the 6'2 Nino Valdes but crickets from you.

I am the one who posted the article that said several and you said Big Cat was KO'd for less than a minute - but when i gave you a taste of your own medicine- you all cried like school girls- funny how you disregard facts- Big Cat was not effective nor elite puncher because he could not KO contenders and that was before the bullet but more importantly he was KO'd by Satterfield a 5'10 178 lb light heavyweight who was KO'd by Moore, Charles and Layne -Marciano opponents!

Also maybe Sonny Liston myth of invincible chin comes into question when we rebuke the myth of Big Cat's elite power- Sonny did get stopped by Ali 2x Big Cats power never showed up in the pro ring! but hold on to your myths

 

https://www.boxingoverbroadway.com/...yweight-the-tragedy-of-cleveland-williams/bob satterfield vs nino valdes

32 Lbs Satterfield gave up to Valdes - Listen to comentor talk of height difference

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