Marciano is worhty of the high praise.

You ever heard of a guy named Joe Louis?

I swear, the Marciano worship around here is of a ridiculous proportion.

 

Most people think prime Louis was better I am not among them. Marciano had the perfect style to beat Louis I think. Afterwards Ali was better, but I am of the thinking that comparing hth in different times is not right.

Sure I think Marciano would be destroyed by many heavyweights from the 60s on, but its not really fair. Is it not enough that he was the best durning his time in the entire world? of course things keep improving, but if we never had a wheel we never would have had many other things.

You understand what I am saying if people never watched Louis fight. do you think Marciano would have fought the way he did?

 

You have the right to your opinion. It's an opinion. Just like mine. But what makes Marciano's style perfect to beat Louis?
He beat a Shot Louis and Louis at times was troubling Marciano with what was left of his Jab. Imagine a youthful Louis who lit up fighters with Power, Speed, stunning combinations, an incredible jab, and subtle movements to position himself for control.

Not all things improve. It's kinda sad because they should. I would take Louis of the 30's over the field of todays "contenders" (which doesn't include the Klitschkos since they are champs).

Marciano was being out-boxed by an Old Walcott. Walcott remember was knocked out previously by a Past Prime Louis in quicker fashion. Charles himself was KO'd quicker by Walcott in previous years. And Marciano struggled mightily with arguably a past prime Charles who wasn't the size of prime Louis.

Louis actually fought guys coming towards him. He did struggle a bit but when he adjusted in the rematch....it was over...as seen by his two fights with Arturo Godoy.

Here is the rematch:
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People are supposed to learn and improve on the past...but they don't always.

The Roman army for example was better during its height of power than years later when "Barbarians" took over. Now that said, did Rome improve on what the Greeks did in battle? Absolutely. But they were well schooled. Not everyone is.

Louis threw better combinations in the 30's than you see out of the contenders of today in the HW division. that's sad.

There are many fighters today that aren't as good as fighters of the past.

Sometimes the "art" of something can be lost if not taught and practiced.

Take the NFL: Lots of complaints about even though today's athletes are better than yesterday...and I mean these guys are amazing athletes...but most can't tackle for **** compared to guys in the past. Why? Because they routinely practiced it back then. They don't today. It's all about the big hit.
You have to be taught it. And you have to practice it to get better and evolve it.

 

Lol.

Prime Louis DESTROYS Marciano in the most brutal fashion imaginable.

Joe had problems with guys who could box and gave him movement. Guys who came straight at Joe and tried to brawl got their heads taken off.

Marciano was tailor made for the Brown Bomber...

 

Even with Baer. Did you see what happened to Baer when he decided to open up on Louis...he got taken apart. Baer was thinking....I got him...Oh ****...I woke the Giant.

Time....2:21
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Marciano was a very good rematch figher so a reamtch between Louis and him would be interesting. Marciano did very well in his rematches vs Charles, Walcott and Lastarza. I don't put much importance in hth from different time periods for one you never know and two I think what a boxer does during his time is more important then fantasy fights.

 

Marciano did not exsactly come straight at his opponent. Marciano was very hard to read as far as when he was going to make his moves.

 

The other thing that gets overlooked with Louis is his true full power punch.

Louis preferred the short, fast, crisp power shots because they could stun you and then he could unload on you. The were quicker to the target. He could throw combinations with them.

But ever notice when this Man Cocked back his arm and unloaded?
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3PpR12yaRs&hd=1[/ame]

 

it would be interesting. Both did even better in the rematches. We could debate the rematches but it could go either way with how we judge it.

 

I did not know about the Lowry rematch, but it is interesting how well he did in rematches. Most people think he was a crude slugger, but I can see what it is that made him so good at rematches and in general. And you dont have to look to close if you know what you are looking at.

 

He wasn't a crude slugger. He could be seen off balance at times...wild throwing at times...and so on...but overall, he was solid for his particular style and ability and he used it quite well at the top level.

Here's a good interview with Marciano actually

http://www.john-summers.net/marciano.html

 

No one is knocking louis, I rank him and Marciano at top, with Rocky getting edge in head to head match up, louis edge all around.

 

Everyone on this site knows you're a complete racist tool who'd find some way to degrade any white boxer you can but how you put Tyson ahead of him resume wise is a farce. At the very least you have to take into account the fact he lost!!!