Marciano "not easy to hit with effective punches"

Marciano KO"D Simmons in 8 and BIG CAT went the full route

 

I can play that game. Rocky KO'd Moore in 9. Patterson KO'd Archie Moore in 5 (Archie said Floyd was his toughest fight NOT Marciano) and Liston KO'd Patterson in 1 TWICE. What's the point of this game?

 

What game??

No one said Marciano could beat Liston, We just saying he is not easy to hit with effective punchings. Also styles make fights, and Patterson tended to start faster than Marciano.

 

That isn't a direct same-opponent comparison like Dempsey's. It's an opponent-of-an-opponent. Not only is the concept not always an accurate measure of fighters' relative abilities, but the more degrees of separation you put into it, the more distorted it will become. If you go far enough into the opponent-who-beat-an-opponent-who-beat-an-opponent route, you can conclude that Manny Pacquiao would beat Wladimir Klitschko. But on a direct "same-opponent" comparison, there is a much higher likelihood of accuracy.

 

Marciano's defence is his most underrated aspect. Look how low he bends at the waist at times. He used to duck below the heavybag and come up with crushing shots. A lot of the punches he slipped missed only by a few centimeters, not the normal few inches.

 

Yeah, that waist movement was very impressive, moving 3 dimensionally, covering a lot of distance, unpredictable motions, while throwing heavy leather @ the same time. Critics, watch some of his fights and concentrate on his defense, especially his waist movement. It's seems chaotic, but in fact it's well planned.

 

Was Nino Valdes a master boxer? He beat Charles shortly before Charles fought Marciano.

 

And Norton beat Ali a year before Ali fought Foreman. What exactly would be the point?

Valdes was a very big man with good boxing skills. He was not the sort to be taken lightly and not trained well for, as Charles admitted he did.

 

I remember an interview in the sixties in which Moore said Marciano was his toughest opponent. I have also read he said Charles was and also that Burley was. And Eddie Booker. I have no doubt he said Patterson was at one time or another.

 

I think Marciano wasn,t particularly hard to catch ,but catching him with hard shots was difficult,as Walcott went on record as saying,plusMarciano was allways there ready to throw bombs back ,and he carried his power all through a fight,he is probably the most powerful"small guy", the heavies have seen.When you are certain that after you throw your opponent is coming back with some thunder,it can make you hesitant about throwing ,and Rocky could throw those bombs allnight ,no one ever saw him gassed out,he was ,along with Tunney ,the most perfectly conditioned fighter in the history of the Heavyweights.

 

Praise to the Rock!

That uncoiling, elusive torso was muscularly rooted in those powerful legs to create a two-fisted juggernaut. His center-of-gravity stance is to me a principle I always try to keep in mind. He made the most of what he had and, perhaps more than any other heavy champion, wore the crown with the proper dignity. Truly an example of what the champ should be all about, he was always in shape, always gave his best and he never, ever, lost!

 

Well spoken, mcvey. Thailand did you well it seems.