Marciano or Dempsey, which one was the bigger puncher ?

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Gibbons was the same age against Dempsey as Charles was when he fought Marciano. Charles was also a clear cut better fighter than gibbons in there primes. Charles fought Marciano to a 15 round war while gibbons looked dreadful and barely threw a punch the entire fight.

    What's your logic there?
     
  2. burt bienstock

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    Pertaining to Tommy Gibbons...You bring up one fight against Jack Dempsey that Gibbons looked unimpressive as his modus operandi was just to SURVIVE against Jack Dempsey in 1923, Tommy soon retired. In over 100 bouts tommy Gibbons was NEVER stopped except his last bout against Gene Tunney. A defensive fighter of the first order like his brother Mike the MW...
    About 5 years ago on youtube I stumbled across a great clear film of Tommy Gibbons IMPRESSIVE knockout of the British heavyweight Jack Bloomfield in London...I was shocked at his savage ko of Bloomfield and his punching power that scored 47 kos in about 106 fights. I beseeched the owner of that film to put it back on youtube and shortly after they did but with a less clear version taken with a different placed hand cranked camera.
    I once again implore the owner of the clearer version of the ko for the benefit of you and the ESB posters...Tommy Gibbons belonged with any LH in his prime I believe...
     
  3. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a tough call. I think Marciano was a better one shot guy. Dempsey had 'good though actually, not extraordinary, hitting powers. He was never a good boxer and little or no defense. His protection was aggression. He was not, for instance, ever as good a fighter and boxer as ...Joe Louis is ... not withstanding Louis's defeat by Schmeling. Dempsey's entire reputation was based, actually, on two fights, the one in which he knocked out gigantic Jess Willard at Toledo, to win his championship, and the thrilling, atavistic brawl with Luis Angel Firpo, the big Argentine, at the Polo Grounds in New York, September 23, 1923.'
     
  4. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dempsey id say hit harder with either hand but for awhile there marciano looked like he may have been the best and sneakiest one punch heavy - his one punch ko of layne, then nearly killing louis, his two one punch kos of walcott were something
     
  5. SuzieQ49

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    You make this assumption based off a knockout over an average domestic level fighter? Nonetheless I would like to see it.


    Moore Walcott and Charles have produced brutal one punch knockouts over world class fighters that's up on YouTube and many posters here turn a blind eye. I hope you don't.
     
  6. Savak

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    How can a 180-190 lb guy punch harder than someone who is 250 lb? Doesn't make sense.
     
  7. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How? He knows how to punch. Why did Max Baer at 210 pounds hit harder than Carnera at 260 pounds? Being big does not mean you hit hard. Having the ability to hit hard makes you hit hard. Punching power can be incremental improved but most trainers feel punching power is something you have or don't. Boxing history is full or smaller hwts beating the hell out of larger hwts.