Marciano, Sharkey Tale of the Tape

Keep posting Suf-Bat, you have a treasure trove of information. It seems that Sharkey hold the edge in every are you listed except ankle. Sharkey also had longer arms. When Sharkey fought Jeffries for the secone time, his listed weight was 183 which is only 5 pounds from Rocky's career high weight in a title fight.

 

Sharkey got the better of Corbett and Choynski. His aggressive charging style, combined with his strength, stamina, and hitting power seemed to be position to fighters who relied on speed and mobility as their preference to engage.

On resume of wins, and talent fought, I think Sharkey eclipses John L. Sullivan. I have said that for years. I have not seen many comment on it.

 

What do you read into Lennox Lewis and James Toney's very flattering assessment of Audley Harrison? :hat

 

I just added weights for a couple of his early (1894-95) bouts.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=10551&cat=boxer

 

So Patterson was the bigger man than Marciano ? I remember you going nutty a year ago over that comment ...

 

Always stirring the pot twat .... :stir ... Don't insult SB, he's light years out of your class ..

 

:good

 

Well if these measurement are true then my neck is a 1/4 of a inch thicker than Marciano which I can't believe is true considering I'm only 164 Ibs

 

So, they are both midgets. I don't get the point. Are we trying to draw a parallel in their fighting abilities here? Even by contemporary accounts Sharkey possessed no science, only hitting power, stamina and a bag full of hate. The fact that bigger men had a problem with him only illuminates the lack of science in that era. Otherwise, and I hate sounding like a repeating record, where is the equivalent midget, bereft of science, making a statement in today's, or even in past decade's, HW division?

He was a Pier 6 fighter plain and simple... a great character and a mean mf'er. Unfortunately, that was not enough to succeed in subsequent generations.

 

On a thread which compares the tale of the tape, i woudnt have thought so.

Marciano?
Or perhaps if you want more modern, Adamek?

It wasnt enough to succeed in any generation. He was a good fighter end of story. Probably not as skilled as a Chris Byrd but certainly more skilled than say a Sam Peter.

 

I think you missed the "bereft of skill" qualifier... and Adamek is a freakin' giant compared to sawed-off Sharkey.

Certainly, he was game as the day is long. I am not sure he was skilled as a... oh god, here i utter a term never used... a PRIME SAM PETER (laughter ensues)... Sam did have a good amateur career and was taught well. However, he fell in love with his power and regressed. But in the heavyweight division, power, strength and size can (not always do) make up for some amount of deficiencies. When you are the size of Sharkey, you don't have a lot of room to get it wrong, though. So, even supposing they were of equal skill, Peter just has great advantage due to his hulking size and brute strength. Now, I expect the assertions that Sharkey was stronger than Sam Peter.

 

How about Qawi?

And no i dont think Sharkey was stronger than Peter.

 

Who exactly did he beat at heavyweight? Outside of the esteemed Tyrone Booze.