Marciano talking about Frazier

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 banned Full Member

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    He’s a weird bitter guy I’d just ignore him lad.
     
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  2. Journeyman92

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    Ali didn’t know how to throw a proper uppercut it’s why he got caught so often by Frazier’s hook he dropped his hand to do it every time. Really Frazier vs Ali was a battle of two very technically flawed guys both very determined, Frazier got very far despite a lot of things, Ali similarly IMO you wouldn’t want to emulate either guy at all. Marciano was a much more technically sound fighter worthy of a bit of emulation.
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This was probably when Ali weighed 190, though.
     
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  4. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd say he had sneaky/snappy power,he used to predict when will his opponents get picked apart,and so far from my knowledge he only failed to do so vs Doug Jones.
     
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  5. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You know a story where he knocked his mother teeths accidently when he was baby?
    He was born with stronger than average punch.
     
  6. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know, every time something good was said by Marciano or about Marciano, he and McVey try to make that not valid because they don't like the truth.
    When Ali said something about Liston it counts, but when he said something about Marciano he was humble or not telling the truth, that's their logic.
     
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  7. HomicideHank

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    *Hold on to the back of their head and neck for dear life
     
  8. ElFrutero_46

    ElFrutero_46 Hey lithen right Full Member

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    The rock is like the most smart and aware guy that i've read talk about boxing. Then and now.
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    It was a whistling right cross that sent Frazier’s mouthpiece dramatically flying across the ring and into the front row seat sections.

    However, Ali employed an assortment of punches - he def. hit Joe with a number of crunching uppercuts.

    There was the left hook in round 2? also - that sent Joe into the ropes, hurting Frazier early with Ali trying to tee off in follow up.

    For all his natural athletic gifts, Ali still threw very well educated punches.

    In some ways his actual technical proficiencies have been underrated in order to wax lyrical about his natural abilities.

    Similarly, Mike Tyson’s very real one punch power often takes a back seat to the observed contribution of his hand speed and punching in combination as the primary ingredients to Mike’s effective punching power.

    In his early career I’ve read that Ali reserved extended time in the gym to religiously practice his many and varied punching techniques.

    Look at Liston 1, as the announcer Steve Ellis famously exclaimed, Sonny was getting hit with all the punches in the book.

    At times during that fight, it was possibly the most conventional Ali I’ve seen boxing in the ring.

    Ali def. wasn’t going to mess about with the still formidable Liston.
     
  10. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I also like how Rock didn’t make it about himself when analysing other fighters.

    A supremely confident man but without an obnoxious ego.
     
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  11. Seamus

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    Actually I did this interview. I take full credit. You're welcome.
     
  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Wish Marciano lived long enough to see Tyson. Had he not died in that crash, he would have been in his 60s when Tyson came around.
     
  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Did Marciano think he could beat Floyd Patterson? When asked if he thought he could take Patterson, he just said "Floyd's a great guy and I rather not speak on such things".
     
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  14. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    That quote pretty much says it all. I’m sure that Rocky would believe 100% that he could take Floyd, prime for prime. Most great Champs think and have to think that way - Rocky answered the question in the most gentlemanly manner.
     
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  15. ElFrutero_46

    ElFrutero_46 Hey lithen right Full Member

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    The way he nailed Joe coming in with that punch (and a thousand others that night) was the fruit of the 24 rounds he had shared with him and all the work he had put in developing his flat footed'ish style since his comeback. I've never seen Ali time so many hard knockout punches at once, to me by far his best offensive display incluiding his 60's version. He also blew Joe's mouthpiece in the early rounds with an open palm left hook.
     
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