Marciano the Ultimate Homeboy?

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  1. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ultimate is way off but marciano definatley fought mostly at home, though without many controversial decisions .As with a bunch of other other fighters i dont know wether to deduct points for lack of away victories or add them for good career managment, or both.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yes, but he fought 300 fights. To be that active and travel any more, his career would still be going to reach that number. The fact is he fought internationally and all over the US... Wisconsin, Illinois, Tennessee, California, Louisiana, Nebraska.. if you think all those crowds were friendly to Greb, you are a bit naive. Marciano only fought for friendly crowds (tho, being white, any crowds in front of him against a black fighter were probably "friendly").

    And, you are absolutely wrong about plane travel from '15 to '50. There were these things called "airlines" that developed over that time... which is why Marciano flew to his fight against Cockell in San Francisco. When Dempsey fought in Montana he took a choo choo.

    So, again, can anyone name a fighter of the championship level who was more coddled in terms of audience than Marciano? And if a home crowd does not matter, why are so many negotiations caught up over this issue? Why are guaranteed rematches so often granted for the opposing fighters' hometown?
     
  3. Monte Fisto

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    you clearly didnt read what i said. i acknowledged that airlines were around but not commonly used.

    Greb- 70% in PA- numbers dont lie
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    That still means Greb fought 90 fights elsewhere, in places like Florida, Tennessee, California, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Ontario, Toronto... I think we can say these were not uniformly friendly crowds. So, twice the length of Marciano's entire career Greb spent on the road wading into crowds that were at best indifferent.

    Meanwhile Marciano's greatest excursions were traveling to Chicago to watch Methusaleh Walcott look for a trap door after the first punch or winging out to the Bay to chase a lightheavy with a glandular condition around the ring in a Keystone Cops re-enactment, demonstrating some of the worst and least effective form the division had seen since Tommy Burns.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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  6. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    He didn't have an incredibly extensive amateur career. And why travel during your confident-building fights? That simple, your search is over.
     
  7. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    You make it sound like Marciano won the title and went back to defend his championship in Rhode Island. A regular Sven Ottke he was.
     
  8. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    oh yea, and I heard about the bandleader
     
  9. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its a term that people with the Irish curse call Italians when they realize the Goomba has larger genitalia :lol:
     
  10. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    hmmmm. Isn't the definition of an ultimate homeboy some one who only fights "at home"?

    Wasn't the Rock's hometown Brockton Massachusetts?

    How many times did Rocky fight in Brockton?

    Did he defend his title in his hometown?
     
  11. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In fairness though, Marciano travelled to MSG to face Vingo, who was the big name over there, and beat him up.
    And it was a big fight with plenty on the line for both men.
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Buona! Perché mio padre è italiano. Mi sono chiesto da dove proviene questo maiale..
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I still haven't seen anyone name the elite championship level fighter who was less peripatetic than Marciano. Ottke, tho levels lower in calibre, may be one.
     
  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I thought you an expat Mick in Lisboa.
     
  15. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    This thread is full of west coast bias.